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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 161 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I still cannot believe how wrong I was about John Fetterman.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 107 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He was different before his stroke. There are multiple studies that correlate frontal and midline lesions in the brain with right-wing authoritarianism.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2020.0137

https://www.ibroneuroscience.org/article/S0306-4522(25)00304-5/fulltext

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 25 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I guess but I feel like supporting Gaza genocide isn’t something you just stroke into.

[–] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't know enough about Fetterman's past to make a judgement on how his stroke affected him, but you totally could. Brain damage can fundamentally change who you are as a person on every level, from memory to logic, or even spirituality. It can change or entirely destroy your ability to feel empathy, damping some emotions while amping up others. Strokes that fundamentally change personality like that are rare, but certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

[–] Phunter@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There's a famous case of a guy who got a railroad spike blown through his frontal lobe and he basically became a huge asshole.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It's so famous in fact that it's frequently heavily exaggerated and distorted via telephone game from people who've never even minimally researched this case but decide to cite it for this claim anyway.

[–] Wimopy@feddit.uk 16 points 4 days ago

Phineas Gage if anyone wants to look the case up. Classic psychology and neurology tale.

Of course this happened before modern scientific standards and procedures were mainstream, so take everything with a grain of salt.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Actually, that’s kinda what these neuroscientists are finding happens.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Any evidence of it ever having the opposite effect?

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

That tends to happen with books, but wisely applying their contents to the dome.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

I say this as someone with a lot of experience diagnosing and treating strokes....

You'd be surprised how cruel and violent some people can become after them.

I've seen the sweetest little grandma turn into a full on support for genocide nazi after one. More than once.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Strokes can break your brain and fundamentally change your personality and values. Idk if that actually happened here or if he was always actually a piece of shit. It doesn't matter ultimately. He's a shithead now.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is there like the opposite of a stroke someone can have that can make them a better person?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True, ego death does wonders to a person's perspective. But it does not make the base parts work better.

But it does make me wonder how much evil would actually exist, if all humans were healthy.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Psychedelics can help you make connections that you would otherwise not have made, which I would consider to be better brain function, but it’s an inexact science (mostly because it’s hard to get funding to study psychedelics), so in practice they don’t always do that.

I’m of the opinion that humans would not be evil if they were healthy and educated about the consequences of their actions.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

I think that you just need a certain ability in order to be a functional human being.

If you chugged lead, then...well. You will simply be antisocial.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

Nah, they're all having one while slurping up that Faux trooth.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 54 points 5 days ago (3 children)

In our hate for Dr Oz, we accidentally raised up a separate monster.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 53 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Turns out both options were horrible monsters. As is tradition.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes the lesser evil is still really evil.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago

And still lesser.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Americans still thinking they can primary themselves out of this situation is hilarious to me.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Still? We haven’t tried in 40 years.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

BOoOoOOoTThH sSSsSsSsiiiIIidESSsssSS

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 20 points 5 days ago

I mean, I thought he was the best option during the primary, that was definitely wrong. And not everything can be blamed on the stroke.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

yeah now we have fetterman and oz is still in government.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

the alternative wouldve been MEMHET oz, but oz is in a position to do more harm than fetterman right now, it was a lose lose situation.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All we ever see on our ballots is two evils to pick from.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

hence lose lose situation. fetterman was more like a turncoat after his encounter with AIPAC. HE WAS ALWAYS pos BEFORE. stroke+aipac unmaks his true colors.

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

You and me both sister

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Brain damage causes conservatism

He started with a 180, and now I'm so dizzy I feel like Alice in Wonderland.