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[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Keep doing what you do. Your company will pay me handsomely to throw out all your bullshit and write working code you can trust when you're done. If your company wants to have a product in the future that is.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Lmao, okay buddy, based on how many interviews I have sat on in, the chances that you are a worse programmer than me are much higher than you being better than me.

Being a pompous ass dismissive of new tooling makes you chances even worse 😕

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The person who uses fancy autocomplete to write their code will be exactly the person who thinks they're better than everyone. Those traits are correlated.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you use an IDE for writing your code or do you use a notepad like a "real" programmer? An IDE like Intellij has fancy shit like generating getters, setters, constructors, equals hashscode, you should never use those, real programmers write those by hand.

Your attention detail is very good btw, which I am ofc being sarcastic about because if you had any you'd have noticed I have never said I write my code with chat gpt, I said Unit tests, sql for unit tests.

Ofc attention to detail is not a requirement of software engineering so you should be good. (This was also sarcasm I feel like you need this to be pointed out for you).

Also by your implied logic that the code being not written by you = bad, no company should ever hire Junior engineers, I mean what are you gonna do? Fucking read the code they wrote?

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Were you prone to this weird leaps of logic before your brain was fried by talking to LLMs, or did you start being a fan of talking to LLMs because your ability to logic was...well...that?

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You see, I wanted to be petty and do another dismissive reply, but instead I fed our convo to copilot and asked it to explain, here you go, as you can see I have previously used it for coding tasks, so I didn't feed it any extra info, so there you go, even copilot can understand the huge "leap" I made in logic. goddamn the sweet taste of irony.

Copilot reply:

Certainly! Here’s an explanation Person B could consider:

The implied logic in Person A’s argument is that if you distrust code written by Copilot (or any AI tool) simply because it wasn’t written by you, then by the same reasoning, you should also distrust code written by junior developers, since that code also isn’t written by you and may have mistakes or lack experience.

However, in real-world software development, teams regularly review, test, and maintain code written by others—including juniors, seniors, and even AI tools. The quality of code depends on review processes, testing, and collaboration, not just on who wrote it. Dismissing Copilot-generated code outright is similar to dismissing the contributions of junior developers, which isn’t practical or productive in a collaborative environment.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

You probably wanted to show off how smart you are, but instead you showed that you can't even talk to people without help of your favourite slop bucket.
It didn't answer my curiosity about what came first, but it solidified my conviction that your brain is cooked all the way, probably beyond repair. I would say you need to seek professional help, but at this point you would interpret it as needing to talk to the autocomplete, and it will cook you even more.
It started funny, but I feel very sorry for you now, and it sucked all the humour out.

[–] PotentialProblem@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve been in the industry awhile and your assessment is dead on.

As long as you’re not blindly committing the code, it’s a huge time saver for a number of mundane tasks.

It’s especially fantastic for writing throwaway tooling. Need data massaged a specific way? Ez pz. Need a script to execute an api call on each entry in a spreadsheet? No problem.

The guy above you is a nutter. Not sure if people haven’t tried leveraging LLMs or what. It has a ton of faults, but it really does speed up the mundane work. Also, clearly the person is either brand new to the field or doesn’t even work in it. Otherwise they would have seen the barely functional shite that actual humans churn out.

Part of me wonders if code organization is going to start optimizing for interpretation by these models rather than humans.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

When LLMs get it right it's because they're summarizing a stack overflow or GitHub snippet it was trained on. But you loose all the benefits of other humans commenting on the context, pitfalls and other alternatives.

[–] PotentialProblem@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

You’re not wrong, but often I’m just trying to do something I’ve done a thousand times before and I already know the pitfalls. Also, I’m sure I’ve copied code from stackoverflow before.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 0 points 11 hours ago

You mean things you had to do anyway even if you didn't use LLMs?