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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I'm going to put a token down and make a prediction: when the bubble pops, the prompt fondlers will go all in on a "stabbed in the back" myth and will repeatedly try to re-inflate the bubble, because we were that close to building robot god and they can't fathom a world where they were wrong.

The only question is who will get the blame.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 2 points 10 hours ago

In past tech bubbles, it was basically the VCs, the media hypesters and the liars in the companies. So the right people.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

I increasingly feel that bubbles don't pop anymore, the slowly fizzle out as we just move on to the next one, all the way until the macro economy is 100% bubbles.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only question is who will get the blame.

Isn't it obvious? Us sneerers and the big name skeptics (like Gary Marcuses and Yann LeCuns) continuously cast doubt on LLM capabilities, even as they are getting within just a few more training runs and one more scaling of AGI Godhood. We'll clearly be the ones to blame for the VC funding drying up, not years of hype without delivery.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

it was me, I popped AI. I destroyed Twitter (and, in collateral damage, I blew up the United States), and those fuckers are next. You're welcome.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 1 points 2 hours ago

You’re welcome.

Given their assumptions, the doomers should be thanking us for delaying AGI doom!

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

The only question is who will get the blame.

what does chatbot say about that?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

They're doing it with cryptocurrency right now.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

nah they'll just stop and do nothing. they won't be able to do anything without chatgpt telling them what to do and think

i think that deflation of this bubble will be much slower and a bit anticlimatic. maybe they'll figure a way to squeeze suckers out of their money in order to keep the charade going

[–] HedyL@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

maybe they’ll figure a way to squeeze suckers out of their money in order to keep the charade going

I believe that without access to generative AI, spammers and scammers wouldn't be able to successfully compete in their respective markets anymore. So at the very least, the AI companies got this going for them, I guess. This might require their sales reps to mingle in somewhat peculiar circles, but who cares?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

i meant more like scamming true believers out of their money like happens with crypto, this is cfar deal currently. spam, as something nobody should or wants to spend their creative juices on, or for that matter interact in any way, seems a natural fit for automation with llms

Whoever they say they blame it's probably going to be ultimately indistinguishable from "the Jews"