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The Senate has passed a bill making Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) the U.S.'s largest interior law enforcement agency with funding for Donald Trump's immigration enforcement agenda higher than most of the world's militaries, including Israel's.

Pending its passage in the House of Representatives, Trump's bill could mean a massive increase in ICE funding as part of an immigration enforcement agenda worth $150 billion over four years.

This figure is more than the annual military budget of Italy, which at $30.8 billion, is the world's 16th highest defense spender for this year according to tracker Global Fire Power.

It is also higher than military spending for Israel, ($30 billion), the Netherlands ($27 billion) and Brazil ($26.1 billion).

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[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Leave the US. If you have expertise you'll be easily welcomed into most countries, if not, there is are a lot of countries you can still move to that are not police states. Either way you'll stop paying/supporting and supporting US fascism with your work. The immigrants your government is so eager to deport have been through worse.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] ryanee@fedia.io 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As if any cops would even attempt to stop them instead of joining in. Calling the police is just giving them backup.

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

No, but there will be a war front that you can position yourself on the not-scum side of.

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are too few places to escape to in modern society, given the rise of authoritarian globally. I was planning on Germany until the Russia/Ukraine conflict. Now I find it more prudent to stay in the U.S. and relocate to a low population area. For the handful of dense urban environments in the U.S. there are far more wide open spaces with no people.

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Head in the sand is always an option, until it's not.

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s all relative. It’d be just as easy to argue the head in the sand argument at an American who thinks they’re just gonna pack up to a random city in Europe and avoid the consequences of what’s happening globally. I understand we’re all just trying to feel like we have agency over our own lives and don’t exist at the whim of a handful of billionaires, so to each their own.

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Fascism is always a possibility anywhere in the world. The difference is that it's here and now in the US. I sure as shit would be doing everything I could to not be there anymore if I were there. It's fucking scary enough watching it from Canada and I won't have any hesitation to flee if the tanks start rolling in this direction.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I left earlier this year. I'm a tan skinned Latina trans woman immigrant, basically their #1 target. I'm still absolutely terrified for my friends and family.

I truly hate that I'm still chained to the US via my citizenship. A part of me hopes they denaturalize me so I don't have to pay them shit.

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can't you denounce your citizenship? It's also not possible for them to force you to pay taxes on income you don't earn in the US - unless you want to return at some point. I hope you're some place safe that respects your identity now.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Renouncing US citizenship is no easy task, and I'd rather not do that before I get new citizenship

[–] Damionsipher@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Totally fair - being stateless is objectively worse that being hated by your state (I don't mean that sarcasticly, it's fucked up on so many levels)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think it's actually pretty expensive to renounce US citizenship

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The US is a bit special. It is the only state to require its citizens pay taxes to it on (regular) earnings abroad. Other places only tax earnings made inside their own borders.

So to truly be off the hook for American taxes as a non-elite, you'll have to renounce your citizenship.