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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is like that fridge post from yesterday..

The difference is that...cheap washing machines didn't exist. Good modern washing machines last a long time while not wasting money and electricity.

You can't compare the only available appliances of the 70s to the bottom-of-the-barrel now

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No. That's not what's happening here.

And just for the record I am an appliance repair tech for the last 20 years.

Hands down appliances from the early 90s to about the 2010s are significantly better than new appliances today.

They are better in everyway. They were made under a different philosophy, they were made to be fixed.

When I stated my career in 2004 I would have a box of common parts that would break for each kind of appliance I would service. Fridge, washer, dryer ext. I wouldn't have to order a part for weeks. I would just drive down to the parts supplier stock up and move on to my next work order. Now all I do is order proprietary parts that are dedicated to one specific model number.

The materials and build quality of older appliances far exceeds that of new ones so much so that I am actually recommending to my clients that they try to find a used appliance rather than buy a new one because it'll probably last longer.

And I've had this argument so many times already on this platform the savings on energy are absolutely negligible. They can easily be ignored. To clarify the way they notate change in energy is by percentages so it'll appear that an appliance is saving 70% more energy but in reality that saving is stretched across 365 days which equates to maybe 25 to 30 cents of savings a day. Or it'll look like you're saving 400 kilowatt hours but again stretched across 365 days that's just over 1 kilowatt hour a day.

The only caveat is the fact that washers use less water which can actually turn into some kind of savings over the course of the year because your water heater will have to heat less water but that's about it.

Generally I fix appliances that are less than 10 years old most of those are refrigerators the extreme vast majority of those are Samsung appliances.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

This new washer is High Efficiency!

btw you’ll want to run a double extra rinse if you don’t want the clothes to immediately stink when you open the washer cough yes super HE

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not a repair tech, but this matches my experience maintaining and repairing my appliances. My early 80s whirlpool range and oven have had small issues here and there, but generally require swapping one part hidden behind some screws and will take under an hour. My Samsung dishwasher not only does a piss poor job, it also throws LC codes every few days. After the fourth time pulling it from the cabinet I had to put a series of shims to lift the leak sensor off the drip tray and buy a separate Wi-Fi moisture detector. My Samsung fridge (4yo) has a broken door ice dispenser and intermittently decides not to dispense water too. Old LG unit had a linear compressor that shit the bed three times before they refused to do any more warranty work on it.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ya... The liner compressors on lgs were bad. They did resolve that issue though so it's not a problem anymore.

Man... Used to do a lot compresor 3-4 times a week.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the extreme vast majority of those are Samsung appliances.

Bro, fuck the Samsung fridge engineers that decided my ice machine doesn't need to actually be properly insulated and designed an ice box that's basically going to break and it's only a matter of time.

I have to keep reminding myself to defrost and clean it out. Last time it got so bad I couldn't even take the ice tray out without a ton of force. Then I melted the ice but derped and warped the little guide post thingy with heat. Had a tech come out and say it's unfixable, cool time flushing my money down the toilet ... After that I did what I should have done and just reheated it again and bent it and voila problem (I made) solved.

But seriously I hate that fridge with a passion. So much so I'm going out of my way to never buy Samsung again, their customer care is atrocious and quality is hit or miss. I have some Samsung appliances that have been bulletproof so far but I genuinely don't want to have to cross my fingers their QA didn't fail because trying to deal with their support for anything is a Kafkaesque hell.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ya... I tell my clients that Samsung fridges aren't going to make ice. That's just the way they're made.

Samsung makes the worst fridge period. Their other appliances are fine. Very middle of the road. But their fridges suck ass.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Agree, I have other Samsung appliances and they're just fine. Just the fridge is a goddamn nightmare.

Use a steamer instead of a blow-dryer or heat gun, next time. I just had to defrost my Samsung freezer to fix a leak, no warping with the steamer.

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But isn’t your sample biased because you’re a repair tech? People with working appliances don’t call you.

How often do you encounter, for example, a broken Miele washing machine?

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We work on very very little Miele. So much so that I only encountered the brand a handful of times and have no recollection as to how those repairs went which usually means I didn't come back to do said repairs.

However, Miele has a very good reputation for reliability.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Cuz nobody can afford them, or they just don’t do real sales numbers in your geo, or because they’re phenomenal……. I wonder!