MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
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Currently, there are still large communities on lemmy.ml. Contact their moderators and tell ask them to move to another instance and/or merge with other existing communities!
!memes@lemmy.ml
!linux@lemmy.ml
!asklemmy@lemmy.ml
!privacy@lemmy.ml
!worldnews@lemmy.ml
!programmerhumor@lemmy.ml
Programmer humor is already on programming.dev, same with privacy and Linux
The users are who need to move. A bunch of those mods actively ban users who call out tankie bullshit there. The whole damn instance needs to be defederated.
Not just that. People should switch from lemmy to one of the alternatives (mbin, piefed) entirely. Dessalines is still main lemmy dev after all and that's not going to change...
I have zero issues with one of the main devs being a tankie, provided the code is good. It turns out political opinions tend to not impact code quality.
However, I'm unlikely to donate more than code provided he gets most of it, because I don't want to financially support someone who actively supports misinformation.
My beef with Dessalines is 10% his politics, and 90% that he's a power hungry asshole who uses development donations and pays himself to mod and occasionally make a commit. My beef Nutomic is that he's a transphobe and a liar.
Putting up with these clowns was one thing when there were no good alternatives, but now piefed is better than Lemmy in a bunch of ways.
Maybe I'll check it out. I dislike a number of things about Lemmy, but it's been acceptably decent so I haven't looked around much. I've been working on my own Reddit clone, so I've always had a short term mentality about it.
But yeah, if the two main devs didn't have mod positions, I'd be happier.
I was about to point that out, but it looks like the mod that banned me for pointing out negative things about Russia is no longer a mod.
I've unsubbed from most communities there and things are much better now
Subscriber count is essentially a worthless metric on Lemmy, it's overinflated because of dead accounts. The older an instance and it's comms, the worse it is. .ml being the original most of it comms are old and way overinflated by dead accounts.
For example !linux@lemmy.ml has something like 55k subscribers, but the entire Threadiverse only has ~50k monthly active accounts.
MAUs is a much better metric to go by, and by that standard there are only 2 main comms that haven't been dethroned by a non-.ml alternative yet !linux@lemmy.ml and !privacy@lemmy.ml
But !linux@programming.dev is getting there!
Fully agree. I sorted lemmy.ml communities by MAU and listed a few from the top
Oh man, check it out with all the instances on if you want a little smile, .ml comms have fallen hard lol. Memes used to hover around rank 13, now it's like 30 lmao
oh are we the threadiverse?
Yea, the Threadiverse refers to all of the federated "Reddit-like" link aggregation social media, so it includes Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed and Sublinks (if it ever comes out)