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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 87 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I love seeing American flags. The pro-democracy crowd needs to take that back from the fascists and nationalists.

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes. It needs to be taken back. I've been thinking things like a large group of protesters saying the pledge of allegiance would be quite impactful as to who's on the other side.

Being arrested at a protest? Yell the pledge. See how they try to spin that.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

The don’t need to spin anymore. They simply won’t show that footage to their viewers.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 months ago

I hosted a German exchange student in 2006. She, along with the other Germans, were aghast when they saw us all stand for the pledge to the flag in homeroom every morning. They explained that they were (rightly) taught that this kind of behavior is the precursor to horrible, horrible things.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Yes - I've been doing this myself for a few years now. The anti-demicracy crowd doesn't deserve the flag or other American paraphernalia.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 8 points 8 months ago

There were a lot of them today!

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

One interesting thing at my local one in southern California: several people were waving large state flags. Lots of American flags as well, but I thought the state flags were interesting.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Totally in agreement, and I've left comments here before saying that the left needs to do as much. Maga got it in their heads that they're the "true" Americans. The silent majority. They're ignorant, and seeing all those stars and stripes in the crowds I think really drives down that point "No, we are real Americans, and we're fucking fed up". Compare these photos to the Jan 6 photos, which crowd looks like the real Americans?

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No thank you, the nationalists can keep their star-spangled rag. The "American ideal" always represented a settler-colonial project. Racism, classism, slavery, capitalism, conquest, and genocide are all built into the "American ideal" just as much as its nonideal implementations in the US government.

Whatever modes of living come after America needs to be a clean break from its horrific legacy. America in all its forms is holding us back.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think your in the best in headspace

You've described a period in history for every country, most of them today as well

You're just giddy it's the u. S this time.

I'm not insulting you. I get it. But it's not exactly truethful

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You've described a period in history for every country, most of them today as well

Yes, I'm literally an anarchist. All states are at least classist, racist, capitalist, and enslavers to some degree. Any one of those would make states worthy of abolition IMO. Of course I oppose nationalism in all its forms. For a more nuanced (and less "giddy") perspective, please see Section D.6 of the Anarchist FAQ.

You're just giddy it's the u. S this time.

I'm extremely cautiously optimistic that ordinary people are coming out to protests. And considering how after Trump 1.0, Democrats turned a blind eye to ICE, police violence, the COVID-19 pandemic, and the Gaza genocide once a Democrat was elected to office, all after showing up to Black Lives Matter protests during Trump 1.0...I'm more cautious than optimistic.

I don't think your in the best in headspace

Please read my post/comment history. Yeah, life's been a bit shit lately so I'm more upset about it, but I've been an open anarchist for as long as I've been on Lemmy.