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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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Well, there's this quote from you
Now, while I understand going hard on important topics, because there's times I do itnmyself, it is definitely slap fight territory once you go there.
I agree with your stance, I even agree that it's a topic worth fighting over.
But it definitely is slap fighting from that point in the thread downwards.
I want to side with you because I agree with what you said, but the only PTB part was it being a permanent ban. They do have a civility rule in place, so it isn't like the action was taken in a vacuum. If the rule wasn't there, it would be full PTB.
So, sorry, but this one is on you enough that it's not PTB. I can't say you deserved a permanent ban though, so it isn't YDI either.
If that was the extent of my response, I'd say you have a point here. But that was in response to a multitude of disinformation used to blame the genocide and apartheid on the Palestinians, and I provided a multitude of sources to debunk those under that sentence.
I also didn't even call the person I was replying to a Zionist there, despite it being true. I called the bullshit they were posting to be Zionist, because it was. I explicitly avoided what could be considered a personal attack, and instead attacked the substance of their comment as bullshit.
Was it as civil as I could possibly be? No, but even then I'd say it's far more civil than any of those comments justifying genocide by blaming it on the victims, IMO
Yeah, but this community isn't about being right or wrong on a topic. It's about mod decisions.
As such, if there's a rule in place, and the user breaks it, it's kinda on them unless the rule is egregiously out of line in the first place. We're all expected to check the rules of a community before jumping in and commenting. That's just how forums work.
Once you crossed over that line, you put the issue into someone else's judgement as to whether or not to take action. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, or what the topic is. What matters is whether or not you broke community rules, and whether or not the mod took appropriate action.
See, that's what I think people miss. This community here isn't just a place to vent about mod actions. It also serves as a place to crowd source best practices, and as a form of "AITA" as part of that crowd sourcing.
If you come here with the expectation that the subject of the comment or post is the most important factor, you're going to be disappointed. In this case, I already said I agreed with your stance, but your stance simply doesn't matter in terms of what this community does. You could have been arguing the exact opposite stance, and it wouldn't change whether or not you broke a rule there, and thus is irrelevant to whether or not the mod action was appropriate or not.
And, hell, I even said it was over the line for a single event as far as that goes. Should have been either a direct warning that you were crossing rules, or a temporary, short ban to give a cooldown period
Any time a civility rule exists, there is only one answer to who decides what is and isn't civil discourse. The mods make that decision. They can be disagreed with, obviously. But if we as users behave in a way that makes them make a judgement call, it isn't always going to be the call we would prefer. And you did engage in behavior that can be easily interpreted as uncivil. It's our, your responsibility to check in with mods before going off if you care about the possible consequences.
You did and said what you felt was necessary. That's a good thing. Sometimes fighting the good fight has unpleasant outcomes. You walk up and punch a literal Nazi, that's a good thing but you still committed battery. So you have to accept that there may be consequences despite having the moral high ground.
I disagree that it violated community guidelines, as per Rule 5 I did not attack the person, but the substance of the disinformation. Use of strong language is allowed per that rule as long as it's not directed at a person which I didn't, it was directed at the disinformation.
I don't think it's reasonable for me to need to check in with a mod before I respond to Zionist disinformation on world@world.news, there is way too much allowed that go unchecked by the mods themselves.
If a mod was concerned I was crossing a line and messaged me about it, I would've complied. I certainly agree with you about what the mod action should have been if there was concern about civility.
JordanLund has already defended the suppression of Palestinian emancipatory slogans in the past. I can't say I'm too surprised by his actions here with that in mind.
I definitely agree with your last paragraph. If that communities' mods would prefer to provide a safe space liberal Zionist propaganda because they perceive it as civil, that's their decision. I have no regrets about my comments on that thread.
I mean, obviously you disagree, or you wouldn't be here
All I'm saying is that telling someone to "fuck off with that shit" is going to draw mod attention when there's a civility rule in place. There's pretty much nowhere on earth that telling someone to fuck off with that shit is considered friendly.
Yes, there are times it's justified, but pretending that it isn't also uncivil is sophistry at best. It doesn't even matter if someone else starts it, once a slap fight is on, it's on and anyone joining in is contributing to the problem.
Did you report the other user's comments? Because that's the first step we're supposed to take. Then the second is walking away. Now, again, I agree that sometimes you can't just walk away. If you scroll back far enough in my user history, you'll find a recent-ish situation where I tore into a transphobic asshole and was even less civil than anything you said.
I wasn't walking away, and I was definitely justified. But I'm not going to pretend I wasn't breaking a civility rule in the process, and if I'd gotten banned, I'd have been just fine with it because sometimes that's the price you pay. You accept that as part and parcel of protest and resistance because that's how it works. Hell, it's part of the point. If you can't take the heat of your own choices, you're making bad choices.
Well said.