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They used to say "go see the glaciers before they no longer exist" and that time came faster than people expected.
We are so, so boned.
Glaciers have been melting and reforming since the earth existed, we aren't special. The climate goes through stages
This is like saying, "people die, that happens."
Yes... But the average lifespan is around 78 years, not 4.
Ok so lets just go with it So The earth goes through cycles where it becomes uninhabitable for humans. You think we should just let it happen?
This is the dumb shit about the climate deniers arguments. Even if you don't think humans are causing it, we should be working towards preserving earth in a state that humans are acclimated to. Fund climate research and ways to SLOW change if nothing else.
Brain damaged.
But... Jobs!!!
Human bodies slowly die over the course of 75ish years, so by your logic if you see someone stabbing the shit out of someone there is no reason to stop it because naturally they are going to die anyway and we shouldn’t take any action to stop the person from dying?
The speed is the issue.
Are you…actually this stupid? That’s incredible!
Being this stupid practically makes them a cryptid
Cryptid would imply they're not everywhere lol
Let me dream
I guess the current 'stage' is human-induced ecological collapse. Just another chapter in the earth's story.
Our short lived civilizations and their survival, and our much much shorter lives and the lives of our direct descendants, can't be stretched to fit into geological timescales. So I'm not really seeing the point you're trying to make if there even is one.
I get that we aren't special and the earth will be here, but we are responsible for accelerating green house gasses by pulling it out of the ground. The cycle is going too fast for the other life on earth to adapt. In the past, like the cold that caused the dark ages was because of volcanoes and so on.
Yeah, but we're causing this stage of heading towards making it no longer able to sustain life for us humans.
If your point is, "the climate changes anyway, humans will be fine", I strongly disagree.
If your point is, "once the Earth kills off all of those pesky humans, it will recover from this damage within the next ~million years and will ultimately be fine", I agree, unfortunately we won't be here to see it.
yes they do tend to change over the course of a few hundred thousand or even millions of years. not over a 10 yeah gap
Not in ten fucking years though.
Right right... all that coal and oil that sat for hundreds of millions years was going to just all burn itself in a measly 200 years.
Not a single rebuttal! (That I could find). What's the point of spouting denial of extremely well established science, if you're not even gonna defend it.
We shall wait on you with baited breath for your vigorous research backing up the claim that the rate at which the climate is changing is normal, and not going to be catastrophic like all (practically) the world's climate scientists keep finding, again, and again and again. Climate science is about to be revolutionised with your insights, no doubt.
Sorry, I don't have the time. I admit I was trolling a bit, because doomer posts really dont help anyone and further entrench people into their views that treehuggers" are nuts. No one is going to convince the public that there is actually a crisis going on with all this doom and gloom. I'd say I don't know a single person irl who believes in climate change. The biggest issue is you're trying to tell people they can't drive their cars, live in houses, or eat meat. All things that people enjoy and will not let go of.
Also, you say scientists have found this time and time again. There has been panic about this going back to the 70s, saying we Will be underwater by 2000. It didn't happen. This is a big part of why no one will trust it.
Like everyone, I try to do my small part (gardening, not buying something if it's amassed in a horrid amount of plastic, etc, always looking for used options over new, because I hate waste) but none of that changes the fact that I drive a lot of miles, have a house, and eat meat (not excessive, but probably weekly) Which is all destroying the planet. None of us are going to go live in caves, that's just not going to happen. We can all do our small part sure, but it's not going to change anything unless we dismantle all existing systems.