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The appliance that elicits anger and frustrated at it's mere sight. The treacherous device that never worked right.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Printers. There is no excuse for (consumer) printers to be as shitty as they are.

There are reasons, but none of them are excuses: If patent hell wasn't a main obstacle put in place by the large printer manufacturers, I am sure open source hardware alternative would've forced industry improvements ages ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

even enterprise grade printers are shitty

And there is a very good reason: Good Mechanical engineers are epxensive, so instead they hire crappy mechanical engineers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

For me, it's specifically the HP printer my wife has. It has one of those subscription models where you pay per page (or per some unit, I forget) and you can't use it without an account and an internet connection.

I bought a Brother that offers but does not mandate a subscription and tried to get her to use it, but she is convinced the awful disgusting subscription model is easier.

Every time I see it it makes me a little sad and a little mad, but I had her put it on my network that has guest isolation, so it can't touch or spy on any of my other devices and only impacts her.

(My feelings about it aren't quite that strong in reality, but this is a thread about appliance beef. If her printer weren't isolated, I might actually feel pretty strongly about it.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

US patents only last for 20 years. Technically, nothing is stopping you from making a part-for-part copy of a good laser printer from 2005 and selling it the same way some companies do replacement toner.

It's just that making a cheap and reliable appliance is HARD if there are dozens of distinct parts that all have to move together. Heck, id expect a near-clone of a Cuisinart stand mixer before I'd expect a printer.

(And, even then, i doubt it'd be much cheaper than just buying one used.)

Edit: patents, not parents.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

US parents only last for 20 years.

Jeez, I'm way past my warranty. Almost at 27 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don’t worry, commercial printers are equally bad but in a different way.

Every vendor feels the need to inject their own special secret sauce into the drivers instead of making a tool that Just Works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

OS people need to make the drivers. Once.

The driver is only "I bake you a PDF, and you will eat it and you will like it"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m not sure about PDF specifically as a printer language but yeah basically.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brother printers to the rescue. I think they are still untainted by crap bloatware and just do the thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Their mobile app is crap but the printer rocks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there is no true rage like trying to get a Xante to work properly. "YOU HAD NO PROBLEMS 2 HOURS AGO WHEN I FED YOU 2,000 #10 ENVELOPES! WHY WON'T YOU PRINT THIS LETTERHEAD!"

Or my Canon 8000 that has decided it doesn't want to print double sided on satin paper anymore. Or that is will staple a booklet, but only if i have the paper size down as 12x9 portrait instead of 9x12 landscape.