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America has been doing this for decades. Look at Guantanamo Bay. We used the excuse of terrorism then and now we're using the excuse of boarder security. As long as people can be controlled by their greed ~~of~~ or fear then this will continue to happen.
Edit: autocorrect...
Also look at FDRs concentration camps for Japanese Americans. This shit is a time honored tradition in this country.
I don't want to minimize the suffering of Japanese Americans in the camps in any way, but from the history I've read they seem to be a few steps up from whatever the hell is going on at CECOT.
I'm not trying to compare them. We have no idea what's going on at CEDOT. It could very well be worse, that's true. My point is FDRs camps were, by definition, concentration camps. This country has a long history of throwing people into concentration camps.
From all the reporting I've read CECOT is significantly worse than the Japanese internment camps. What America did to Japanese Americans was cruel and unjust, and I wouldn't say conditions in the camps were good, but CECOT seems to be on a whole other level. Prisoners are confined in crowded bunk rooms, outside time is limited to one hour per day, and physical violence from the other prisoners and the guards seems to be the rule rather than the exception.
The concentration camps for Japanese Americans were concentration camps in the 19th century sense of the word - simply a place to hold a group of civilians during a conflict. CECOT is a concentration camp in the Nazi sense of the word - an extermination camp.
I believe adult men could also escape internment by volunteering for the military.
Fucked, but not genocidal.
And especially disgust. They weaponize it so much.
Isn't the name of the camp "terrorism confinement" something?
We were always the first Nazis that won.
More like winners who later decided their defeated enemies were cool. 😅
America was absolutely a part of the formulation of the nazis. Look up Henry Ford. His plagiarized propaganda was attributed as a source used in the formulation of the final solution. Fuck even Thomas Edison was trying to talk him down. Look at the america first party. Over 20 congressional representatives were in active communication and even received funding from Nazis. Some had received pre written speeches that they actually used.
If anyone "won" anything, it would be the Nazis, not Americans. Because here we are...
Plagiarising propaganda by one president or members of some organization receiving funding from Nazis doesn't make the nation Nazi. That's quite the stretch.
Countless fringe political groups organizing on Telegram to adopt fascist views & looks, holding public demonstrations wearing swastikas downtown, targeting minority groups, and stripping people of their power and their history from the top down is more like it. Because back in the day none of that shit would fly especially around people who fought in the war, but it does now.
I think you mean US enemies? Because these views were cultivated by them way after the fact.
I think that we'd be better off if the dads, uncles, and grandpas who came back and refused to talk about their war experiences had made it clearer to the next generation exactly how horrible it was. It didn't fly with them because they saw what it brought. It flies with younger people because we were sheltered from the true horrors of the war.
I think a trip to the Holocaust Museum should be required for all high school seniors. If it isn't closed by the clown show currently running the country, at least.
If you are arguing that the 30-40s US was unlike and unattributed for the Third Reich, then you are obviously correct, but I think you forget that the Nazis existed before Hitler. In the light of what they would become, they were more or less akin to telemarketers. And would THAT fly in the US?
It would
It did
And it always has
Oh, I'm not forgetting, I actually am currently ignorant of that. 😅 I'll have to revisit this conversation when I'm a bit more read on the topic because I see what you mean now a bit better.