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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 87 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This whole case has collapsed into a handful of choices:

  1. Judge doesn't declare the Trump admin in Contempt of Court (i.e. does nothing). This sets precedent that Trump's administration enjoys full immunity from the judiciary, officially turning the US into a dictatorship. This is what has been happening for weeks and remains by far the most likely scenario.
  2. Judge declares Trump in Contempt of Court, but is unable to enforce it. This is equivalent to scenario 1.
  3. Judge declares the Trump admin in Contempt of Court and deputizes state police to enforce the ruling and arrest, if not Trump, at least some officials. This would be legal and remains the only constitutional solution, but would almost certainly trigger an armed response from the regime. Democracy doesn't go down without a fight, but the end result is uncertain.
  4. Pro-democracy factions use illegal/violent means to force Trump to comply (military coup, sudden Luigi's Mansion remake, etc.). However it would seem that the masks fell off and despite decades of propaganda to the contrary, literally not a single living American is willing to put their life on the line to protect Democracy.
[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

1a. Judge goes on a Holiday in Cambodia, so to speak, and is replaced. See option 1.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well now I've gotta listen to some Dead Kennedys so thanks

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

I feel like a lot of lemmy users should read those lyrics and think on them for a bit.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The administration will just apply for an appeal to the decision - 6 months - then if it is approved it goes to a one man Supreme Court ruling (18 months), then they appeal again (12 months) and it goes to the full bench (24 months) who will declare its now outside the scope of action.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  1. Admin complies
  2. Abrego suddenly ends up dead during that time. Essentially means admin would be complying.
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There's a serious chance they'll have the guy killed to get the judge off their back without having to be seen backing down, and to show judges what happens when they try to challenge the regime on a deportation case.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which would definitely be contempt of court when the whole thing leaks because they added another goddamned reporter to the signal conversation about it

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

And then we get to watch Fox News talk about how brilliant and righteous the regime is

[–] parody@lemmings.world 3 points 11 months ago

We have to send monitors to that prison immediately until he’s safely back home

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Because they made the poor and uneducated afraid. That's why all the guns. Fear of that which they do not understand. They were fed endless propaganda about how Trump cares for the working class. Republican Corporate media let them keep their guns as long as they had an enemy to point them at that wasn't them. Keep them scared and afraid of their allies, their fellow working class.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 11 months ago
  1. Dude's dead and has been