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Obviously I disagree with the content. But this just reminds me of the whole "hatred" debacle. the game probably sucks (like hatred did), and its content was very taboo but honestly if some sicko wants to "enjoy" these games i dont think they should be censored. I really hate the idea of people not liking something and it being scrubbed from the internet.
Like if I decided to make a oligarch assassination game with popular figgures as targets. id expect a strong reaction but pulling it from public availability is just plain stupid. And id expect most of the people who think that non-consentual game should be removed would advocate for the murder simulators right to exist. We cant just pick and choose what to censor imo its gotta be all or nothing.
Again, dont care about these games in particular. just playing devils advocate.
It's not, the devs themselves took it off Steam (and honestly I would have thought Valve might have removed it eventually). But it's not like the devs disappeared from the internet, searching around I saw they still sell the game on at least one game platform outside of Steam. And those same devs could choose to sell it directly themselves if they wanted, to say they've been scrubbed from the internet is a bit of a stretch.
Agreed, but i was just speaking in general after mentioning specific examples. Sorry for the lack of clarity.
But to build on your point, You could make the argument that anything that has been uploaded to the internet cannot be scrubbed. most normal people use the internet completely differently than we do. Removing something from Steam, or Epic for most normal people its gone forever. I know for example my parents would never be able to find a movie/show again if its removed from Netflix or HBO.
It's an interesting debate. One that I will not touch with ten foot pole because I do not have the knowledge to say which is right, but it's interesting.
Is it better for people with these uh, interests, to have artificial content if it satisfies their needs? As in, for non consensual the vast majority of people would think it's revolting, and that it should go. We want no part of it in society. But here's the rub. What if the alternative is actually committing the crime? By offering an alternative that is morally questionable could it reduce the actual crime from happening?
Same thing with AI generated CSAM. utterly revolting. Think it should be purged. But, some psychologists argue that it would satisfy the desires of some of them, and it could reduce actual children from being harmed. Some say it could make the urge worse but some say it could prevent the real thing from happening
I don't have the training or knowledge to say this or that, but it's interesting
I agree, but the issue is that theres already so much taboo content out there ready for the public to "enjoy". Alot of modern crime content heavily idolizes and even sexualizes actual muderers and r*pists. Game of thrones has incest and child murder in the first episode (i almoat dropped the show based on this alone). The dahmer tv show was outright denounced by the victims and yet still many people "enjoyed" the non-consentual actions of a disgusting man. I agree with censorship when real people are being exploited or hurt. Thats a no brainer. But where do we draw the line? The original ben-hur movie has a actor die gruesomely on film. Do we censor that? Bottom line, humans are gross. I think its best if we just look away from whatever theyre doing in the dark corners of their minds. (assuming they arent hurting anyone mentally or physically)
I think the line would be real life figures. That would violate actual laws.
But yeah, there shouldn’t be morality police.
Obviously just do a southpark ezpz https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/5/5b/Disclaimer.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100911004506