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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I've heard of PhDs struggling to find employment outside of academia because they're "overqualified" (which is HR-speak for "we offer shit pay") but surely it can't be that bad... right? Right?!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

It really depends on what you specialized in and what you want to do. If youre in engineering and your university gets funding from a company, can be an easy path to employment.

That said, in general, the type of person who wants a phd doesn't always have the same mindset as someone who doesnt. A big part of engineering in practice is realizing when you have enough information to make a decision and how to quickly and cheaply obtain that information, and that doesn't always align with the work scope that gives the best information.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is that bad. Not an impossible challenge but you have to learn whole new skill sets too. And adjust your mindset radically

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Omg you're making me freak out. I had to quit academia a year and a half ago (after 7 years of postdocs) and, after a bad experience in the private sector (techy start up bitch who was just plain insane), I've been struggling for 10 months to find a new path and a job...and I'm still nowhere near finding something I'm afraid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can’t sugar coat my experience. It was rough. But it is true that it varies widely based on a lot of factors, so definitely don’t freak out.

You have mad skills for sure. The main new skill I meant is a whole new perspective on those skills and how you market them.

For me, I knew I was too wound up in the academic perspective so I consciously took a job that was more physical and social, definitely not a brain-job. That helped clear my mind and remember how non-academics look at the world.

I was able to get a good job in laboratory automation eventually, but it was a trial for a few years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for sharing your experience, I'll keep that in mind!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've heard the concern that employers are worried someone with a PhD who is taking a "lesser" job won't be around all that long and will continue job hunting for something better. For employers with this mindset, I'd like to suggest: 1) it's not too hard to beat academia wages; 2) find ways to promote within/add responsibility when people prove themselves

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I know, JFC, talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

Anyone who can pound sand straight up their own ass for many years and stay focused enough to produce a product sufficient to graduate will be an amazing asset in most any setting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Depends on your field and thesis.