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Stuff is getting seriously duplicated here...
Tbh it is a natural consequence of lemmy, and not a bad thing. The fediverse is decentralized, and intended such. It fosters a sort of "competition"
I dont think this is a good model. Communities should be linked at least, and have stuff like "only post here" optionally (if there is any sense in that)
Who decides what communities are linked? You'd need some kind of central authority to do that, but that would break decentralization.
Multiple options for the same thing is good and should be accepted as normal. It's only on the internet that we have learned to think otherwise.
Wouldn't it be weird if you only had one supermarket option to go to? I mean yea super markets mostly have the same stuff, but there's a good reason not to have monopolies.
Community admins would decide to link their communities. Another commenter shared a blog post about this very big issue
At this point, why not just shut down one of the communities and use the other one? What's the point in linking them like this? That just makes it the same as one community, no?
Because
Yeah, I've been noticing this.
How do we avoid this happening?
I'm on [email protected] and it's got 10x more subscribers than this one. What happens if this ends up being just as busy? The community is fragmented? This surely hurts attempts at moving people to here from Reddit.
Lemmy desperately need a "multi-reddit" feature.
PieFed already has Feeds an proposed a way of federating them:
There is no need to avoid it.
The point is that everyone has choice. They can join the big communities, but if one fails, people can just switch the instance they're on, make a "competing" community and if that's successful and "better" it will eventually, naturally overtake the old one.
That makes sense, thanks!
@pantherina @atro_city
There are some proposed solutions in this article: https://popcar.bearblog.dev/lemmy-needs-to-fix-its-community-separation-problem/
It's only a problem if you find decentralisation a problem, which I don't.
Interesting!
I think it would make most sense to join instances into a group, so when a user posts in one community, the community clones the post to the others.
Crossposting doesnt even work, but there should be a post type so that all content is read-only and the interactions (likes, comments) are redirected to the original post
What do you mean? Many posts have "crossposted from" in their description or as part of the page. Mbin shows all other crossposts and in the default lemmy GUI you can click through the crosspost chain.
That's just centralisation with extra steps. Also, imagine somebody is blocked from the original posting instance. Does that mean they can't interact with the post at all?
No not centralization. You can post on whatever instance, and the posts are "symlinked" to the similar communities. Interactions go to the instance post you made. Percectly decentralized.
If a user is blocked, such communities could agree to share the blocklist. Otherwise, they could post on a clone community (like aready possible) and their posts would not be linked to the instance where they are blocked
I dont see the issue
Symlinked? Clone community? Instance post?
Dude, what?
The issue is you've thought about this, made up terms that make sense in your head on the path to your conclusion, and have just jumped ahead to conclusion when posting instead of taking others along the same path. I could also go "stirling sticks are superior to warble sticks, isn't it obvious? The stirling stick is multi-faceted in its use, but the warble stick can only be used for consistent 'viscosity'. I don't see the issue".