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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (40 children)

And I bet all of them are loaded with methylcellulose (a.k.a. nature's laxative) just like every other bullshit fake meat product.

I follow a vegan diet now, but grew up in the southern US around legit BBQ. There is no point trying to replicate that, never going to come close and it's just going to use shitty processed food techniques to accomplish it. If you're going to go vegan, how about actually be vegan instead of chasing a life you decided to leave behind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Yeah, but what if they're not loaded with methylcellulose, or what if we do eventually come close to the real meats or what if this is a gateway product that could convert carnists?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Nope. Give me real plants, unprocessed. Just because a heavily processed compound that happens to be considered vegan might taste like meat has absolutely no bearing on whether or not someone is going to stop eating meat.

It's kinda like a heroin addict. They're not gonna stop just because you took their needle away or gave them a different drug. They have to want to stop on their own, otherwise anything you try is moot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In your heroin example, when they do decide to break the addiction, giving them a different drug (Methadone) is exactly what you do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fair point, although the addicts are not actually interested or want to take the methadone as a replacement and is mainly for uncontrollable withdrawal symptoms.

It's a larger difference gap than plant meat vs animal meat IMO. In other words, not taking methadone could be a life or death difference (or at least the difference between relapse and not).

In the meat debate, you could most definitely get a very close texture/taste without the fake meats if you use the right plants and spices. You don't need the fake meats in order to replicate and satiate that meat-taste desire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I don't think the question should be whether or not it's needed, but rather whether it'll make things easier and encourage more people to make the switch.

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