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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Anything in my house smarter than the IKEA remote control light switch gets crushed with a hammer.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, you could just use smarter stuff that's open source and has local API, or do what I do and build your own devices where you can ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Even there though, what is the actual point of a phone app controlled smart toilet, even if you open sourced the whole thing? Unlocking one's phone and tapping the app icon, and then presumably a button on the app, is going to take more time than one press of a lever that one is right next to anyway, and the latter doesn't present as many points of failure.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Well if you read the product description it was to allow AI Bidet control. However they had not received funding for AI so it was outsourced to a team of laborers in India using cameras and joysticks.

It also logged the consistency, frequency and matter samples from all BMs so you could make informed dedication opinions.

Spoiler/s

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

informed dedication opinions.

Hmmmmm

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn was supposed to be defecation autocorrect got me.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oooohhhhh, that makes sense.

[–] coconutking@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I heard they sold a license for the camera feed and controls access to EA for their next pay-to-play iOS game. The shareholders are really excited for this synergy.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have no interest in one, but playing devil's advocate, some might consider it more sanitary since you don't have to touch the toilet to flush and have the choice of not being near it, hopefully avoiding any spray.

Also, if your guests use the restroom, you can startle them at any time.

[–] mj_marathon@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do the guests flush the toilet without the app? They have to ask you?

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That occurred to me while writing my comment, as well, and I don't like the implications.

I would imagine they have to ask you, yes. If the toilet can be flushed without authentication, they'd probably still have to ask you how.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course. My roof, my water, my rules! /s

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

more sanitary

Foot pedal flush really needs to become a thing.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Wait, why isn't it? There's been so many weird flush designs over the years.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably just the extra cost of linkage and maybe risk of tripping over it

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume lack of demand. In your own home, you'd be keeping the handle clean, and public washrooms often use the touchless sensor types.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

and public washrooms often use the touchless sensor types.

Now. I'm guessing you only have to go back to 2000 for that to be a futuristic new thing, though, while the history of the modern flush toilet goes back to the Victorian era.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, wouldn't want to get bacteria on your hands a few seconds before washing your hands.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The privacy issues are nasty, but a smart toilet could actually be an incredibly useful device.

Can you imagine if every time you went to the bathroom, your toilet could do some of the basic stool / urine tests you get at the doctor's office? Certain diseases could be caught extremely early, and you wouldn't have to do anything different.

And then there are bidet functions. Forget smearing poop all over your ass with paper, wash the poop off with nice warm water every time.

I wouldn't want to have to use a smartphone app for that, but there's no reason you couldn't have a simple set of buttons on the toilet itself. You could keep the manual flush lever and only use that if you preferred, but if you wanted an even better experience and a better clean, that option would be available.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stuff like openWRT routers get a pass.

If it has a local host API I would use it because it never has to connect to the internet.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

People also just need to be more selective about where and how they automate.

For example, I wanted my coffee to automatically start in the morning. So instead of buying a "smart" coffee maker, I bought the dumbest possible one and a smart switch. Now, no matter what happens with that switch, the worst that can happen is I have to manually hit a button to get coffee.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I don't hate the idea of smart-ish devices, if they're not cloud-dependent in any way and have some kind of manual override.

It's kind of painful to have a kitchen full of devices each implementing their own half-assed OSs separately, or even more than once in one device.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a wifi-enabled garage door opener whose manufacturer discontinued the Google Home connection for so that you have to use their app and see their Amazon or Walmart ads. I also have a wifi-enabled alarm system whose manufacturer apparently doesn't care about Matter integration or whatever. So leaving the house in my car requires the use of two different apps (three if I also need to turn off lights).

In actuality I just use the physical buttons. But there was a time that I had a beautiful dream of getting a smart lock and setting my house up to lock the doors, close the garage door, and arm the alarm when I pushed a button in the car--and, more importantly, undo all of those things in reverse when I got home.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

with Home Assistant it doesn't matter if your device adds a Google Home connection, Alexa, Apple Home, etc. Exactly what 'smart homes' should be.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I need to get on that, I guess.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

I wish I was this smart. We really want to do a smart light show using Xlights but every time I try to learn it I feel so frankly dumb.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sent this message by manually sending radio messages, I presume?

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

No, it’s one of the few use cases of emacs.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were bonked with a hammer until they were below the proper "smart" threshold.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they’re about pakled intelligence now.

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Friends hate this one simple trick!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder: never go have pancakes at wise_pancake's house.

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[–] 404@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Can you play DOOM on the light switch?

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