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He can ask for them back, but El Salvador doesn't have to listen. It's like when you sell a car, once the title is signed over and you get the money the deal is done. You can always say "that was a mistake, can I have the car back" but the other party can just ignore you.
And yes, it sickens me to be writing about humans like property you can just "transfer the title" for. But it must not have the same effect on Trump, Musk, or Rubio.
He made the deal with Bukele, if he can't get them back that's because it's how he wanted it.
All the headlines, saying “can’t get them back” are misrepresenting the situation. Trump isn’t saying that he can’t get them back, he’s saying the judges can’t make him get them back.
No, if you want a car to be your analogy, it's more like a rental. The US is actively paying El Salvador to detain them. They can end that deal whenever they want.
You are right, but in this case the car they just received comes with upkeep costs and no particular benefits. If the US does the effort for getting them back, El Salvador has no real reason to keep them.
“Not interested in dealing with trump’s fuckery” as well as “they handed us the political prisoners who fled our country” and possibly not wanting the political fallout from making deals with a fascist country.
That said it would be amazing if El Salvador took the opportunity to show the world by treating these prisoners better than the US did
"Miguel Sarre, a former member of the United Nations Subcommittee for the Prevention of Torture, described CECOT as a "concrete and steel pit" used to "dispose of people without formally applying the death penalty", citing that the government does not intend to release the prison's inmates." --Article on CECOT by BBC Nobody that goes in comes out, there aren't enough bunks or food for inmates, nobody is allowed to see or speak to the prisoners.
They do if they know what's good for them.
But more to the point, alli the headlines, saying "can't get them back" are misrepresenting the situation. Trump isn't saying that he can't get them back, he's saying the judges can't make him get them back.
Except there are actually laws in place that let you do exactly that for a car purchase (in non-shithole places)
For cause, maybe. Just because you changed your mind? Absolutely not.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling-off_period_(consumer_rights)
You're more than welcome to provide a link the law - as far as I can find, there is no mandatory cooling period for purchasing a car - or anything else you purchase in-person (many more exceptions for online) - unless there are issues. This appears to be true in both the EU as a whole and the US, though I haven't looked into individual EU countries.
Also, literally none of this applies to a sale between two private individuals. None of this would ever apply unless you buy from a retailer, which is not the scenario here as I understand it 🤷♂️
https://dcba.lacounty.gov/portfolio/california-car-buyers-bill-of-rights/
I was merely showing buyers remorse laws exist for car purchases, though it looks like some of them aren't in effect anymore at least in California (my last used car had a cooling off period).
And you can't really compare it to "this scenario" because (most?) civilized countries don't condone the buying and selling of people. You're more than welcome to provide a link to legal retailers of humans though.
There are buyers remorse laws for other purchases as well, such as this
You need to actually read the links you're providing.
The buyer's remorse one specifically refers to high-pressure sales such as door-to-door salesmen or a temporary business location (meeting a salesman in a hotel), or some subscriptions or delayed services. Nothing that would apply to buying a car without a really odd scenario.
I was referring to the "sign the title over then regret it" scenario at the top of this thread.
I have been reading the links, have you been? Or reading your messages and mine? The LA one refers directly to used car purchases, which if we are still comparing these poor people to cars would be relevant, at least for those that are not children.
I'll admit the first didn't have have any good examples (that I saw), it was more to convey the concept of buyers remorse laws existing for cars, since you sounded absolutely incredulous about the idea.
I clearly made the link text say that there were buyers remorse for other purchases.
Ah misunderstood that one, thought you were just referring to the people sold as cars in general. My bad.