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Canada blasted a tax and made pollution cheap again. (www.nationalobserver.com)
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  • One third of Canada’s emissions lose CO2 pollution pricing
  • $20 billion cheaper to buy climate-polluting fuels
  • 15 to 20 million more tonnes of CO2 projected by 2030
  • Climate solutions undercut
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It's every voice just as loud at once. We're more psychologically geared for living in a bubble.

That being said, the Liberals dropped the ball on playing any politics with the carbon tax. The cheques should have come only in paper, and in a pretty envelope covered in windmills. People are too dumb to actually pay attention to how the policy works on their own, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes I agree. I think the media/propaganda game of the conservatives was just better on this issue.

The liberals overestimate how much normal people pay attention and feel their policies will speak for themselves. No you need to repeat it on a never ending loop and make it very very simple for people to understand. They started doing this but only after they let the conservatives set the tone and message - by then people weren’t listening. I also blame our absolutely toothless legacy media. The fact that they let Pierre talk about how Carney was “unelected” without IMMEDIATELY fact checking that, preferably TO HIS FACE, is disgraceful. The fact that they let him continue to lie and gaslight us around his security clearance is cowardice.

Similar to how Poilievre’s trying to repaint his relationship with MAGA - people just don’t believe him and I don’t think there’s anything he can do to change that. And they shouldn’t believe him - he’s a twat.

The liberals were just really bad at operationalizing their policies. Too much thinking and talking - not enough doing.

That said, I cannot overstate how misinformed and disengaged our electorate has been. I had to push my friends to go vote in Ontario’s provincial election - they didn’t know it was happening, didn’t know where to vote, didn’t know what they needed to vote, and thought THEY WEREN’T ALLOWED TO VOTE because they hadn’t received their voter card in time.

I do think we as a society need to give people more permission to try things out and get things wrong without absolutely excoriating them, however. Decriminalization in BC comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That said, I cannot overstate how misinformed and disengaged our electorate has been. I had to push my friends to go vote in Ontario’s provincial election - they didn’t know it was happening, didn’t know where to vote, didn’t know what they needed to vote, and thought THEY WEREN’T ALLOWED TO VOTE because they hadn’t received their voter card in time.

Oh man, I "love" when I'm doorknocking, and the person names which party's candidate they're voting in as mayor, but it's a federal election and the municipal elections are non-partisan anyway. Unfortunately, democracy has always worked a bit like that. I used to think direct democracy would be great, but at this point I'm glad there's a certain arms-length separation between power and the actual public.

The fact that they let Pierre talk about how Carney was “unelected” without IMMEDIATELY fact checking that, preferably TO HIS FACE, is disgraceful. The fact that they let him continue to lie and gaslight us around his security clearance is cowardice.

They're a little too accommodating of the PP waterfall-of-alternative-facts style of campaigning, for sure. The trucker thing never comes up when he says he was never MAGA. It really should, because it's highly relevant. If people aren't falling for it anyway, that's great news.

But, I think I have do a bit of a nitpick here. Carney hasn't been elected yet, and PP is pretty much open that he doesn't want a security clearance for partisan reasons. It's just that Carney's in an election right now, and not learning the truth to criticise better is insane.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It’s usually in the context of him as PM when they bring up that he’s unelected but yeah I see your point.

Even my friends post all about Carney on Facebook but I know they don’t know they don’t directly vote for him and their riding has been Conservative with a non-liberal coming in as the second party for the last few federal cycles. Voting liberal in service of Carney won’t get them anywhere and they don’t know this.