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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Hitler was chancellor already when the reichstag fire started. What it did was allow him to seize absolute control. We're not there yet. Courts are still ruling against trump. Elections haven't been cancelled yet. It's a mistake to assume things are already as extreme as they're going to get.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Ah you're right we should appease them instead, if we just be nice they'll stop deporting people

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Perhaps instead of saying stupid things on the internet you could spend some time reading up on WW2 history

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You're both right, and you both got my upvotes.

The current administration will absolutely use any unrest it can to solidify its grip, and they are, as @the_[email protected] mentions, looking for just such an event to declare martial law.

But @pourous_[email protected] is also correct in understanding that this process has already begun, and that retaliatory actions are not specifically analogous, especially as it's very likely that the Reichstag fire was a false flag event engineered by the Nazis themselves as an excuse for Kristallnacht.

Will this kind of event help in the long term? I'm uncertain. On the one hand, it's really good to see resistance take physical form with the potential to inspire further action, but on the other, it means that the right can use it as an excuse to further oppress. Since the mass media has been captured by the right, it's most likely that the perception of this event will be tailored to reflect the latter.

So, unless this action created an impact on the GOP beyond simple property damage (like destroying lists of political opponents they're looking to deport), I think this action will likely backfire per @the_crotch's conclusion. However, that could be offset by the publicity inspiring further resistance on the left. And @pourous_grey_matter is very correct in understanding that we have a very small window of opportunity to act.

So kiss and make up - you're on the same side, and celebrate the fact that you can argue about tactics publicly.

We may not have that option for much longer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Well said. We need to unite to counter this stuff. The right is definitely united. Fascism is very attractive to the average voter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago
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