“If you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again,” Vance replied. Hegseth agreed that “I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.” But, he added, “we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this.”

Miller, the Trump confidant, effectively ended the conversation by saying that the president had been clear. “Green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return.”

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[–] Melchior@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Most of the issues really have been created by Europe. Jewish settlement was supported by the British for a long time. Not creating a Kurdish state was also a massive mistake, which has a good chance of leading to a genocide in Syria right now. Sudan was drawn up by the Brits and that mess has been in civil war for ages. Not to mention Germany with the Holocaust, forcing millions of Jews to the Palastine.

That is not to say the US is perfect, but especially the UK and France really created a lot of the fault lines.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The UK didn't screw anything up, drawing the borders in such a way as to leave entire regions unstable in the long term was the entire point. (Which to be clear is more fucked up)

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

We've been invaded over and over again. If we can keep the foreigners fighting each other then that means they won't invade us. It's just self-preservation.

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Colonial attitudes never really went away. Not gonna play the victim here - we’re not innocent, and yeah, the U.S. screwed us over. But in the last 30-35 years, we’ve had plenty of time to fix things and create stability. But nope, war and stealing resources make more money for the powers than peace ever could.

Now everyone’s low-key prepping for WW3. Not just Europe’s military spending, but the creepiest part? People are kinda accepting in their guts that it’s gonna happen by 2030.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 10 months ago

History repeats. While Europe has learned from it, USA is doing everything they can to make Vance the next Franz Ferdinand.