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Prime Minister Mark Carney has asked for a review of Canada’s plan to purchase a fleet of F-35 fighter jets.

The deal with Lockheed Martin and the U.S. government is for 88 planes at a cost of about US$85 million each.

A spokesperson for Defence Minister Bill Blair said Carney has asked Blair to look into whether the F-35 contract is the best investment for Canada, or if there are better options.

“We need to do our homework given the changing environment, and make sure that the contract in its current form is in the best interests of Canadians and the Canadian Armed Forces,” Blair’s press secretary Laurent de Casanove said.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Canada could do the funniest thing rn by buying J-35s at half the price.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It would be funny, but damn I would not want to buy military equipment from china

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

China is Canada's second biggest trade partner, unless they're planning to follow America to war with China, what's the problem? Especially because it's for a military that was designed for the singular purpose of defending itself from an American invasion over the last 70 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

The Canadian public isint ready to swallow it yet but that's where it's going to end up at. China and Iran have been preparing for this scenario for the last 20+ years.

They have all the kit and more needed, and in the right quantity too. In time. People still don't really belive Trump would push the button. The closer he gets the more open to this reality people will become.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the problem?? China has shown its intent in other parts of the world with its 'belt and road' initiative and, tbh, Canada has little incentive to join that. Never mind the fact that the scumbag Stephen Harper locked us into a decidedly one-sided, 31 year long FIPPA with China that can't end until 2045.

Added to that is all the money laundering and fraud that China committed here beginning in the '90s.

Most Canadians are aware of this stuff, so are wary of joining forces with China in any way, shape or form.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

China has shown its intent in other parts of the world with its ‘belt and road’ initiative

That intent being mutual development so other countries are less dependent on China's enemy and their economies can't be leveraged against China?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

No. Their manipulation of poorer nations where China 'lends' them the money to complete projects that primarily benefit China, leaving the nations forever in China's debt.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're just describing the IMF's model and pretending China is doing it. When countries were unable to pay back the loans, China has refinanced or forgiven them.

Having good relations and a country that isn't dependent on the west benefits China a lot more than slightly reduced costs to transport goods to a country, that every other country also reaps when a port or railroad is built.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Here's me pretending, with data.

From trains and highways to power plants and ports, Chinese funding has helped to accelerate Africa's economic growth and bridge infrastructural gaps.

However, although these loans have accelerated growth, they also present obstacles that may impede long-term development. These obstacles take the form of debt default.

The volume of borrowing from China has generated concerns over debt sustainability in some African countries.

  • Angola .... $64.8 billion
  • South Africa .... $21.3 billion
  • Ethiopia .... $20.4 billion
  • Sudan .... $18 billion
  • Egypt .... $15 billion
  • Nigeria .... $14.5 billion
  • Zambia .... $13.5 billion
  • Democratic Republic of Congo .... $13.1 billion
  • Kenya .... $12.7 billion
  • Ghana .... $9.8 billion Source
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure they weren't planning on getting into a war againt USA either.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

USA: We want to annex Canada. We are not joking

Canadians: Ooh China is very scary.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, those are definitely safe from tampering.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The purpose of buying jets from someone other than America is to reduce America's influence over Canada, why would China sabotage that?

Edit: Why is this controversial? Do you think America tampers with the weapons we send to Taiwan?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The US can remotely disable an F-35.. China, I'd expect can do the same for a J-35.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think the above poster doubts their ability, only that they might be less incentivized to do so compared to, say a country that has repeatedly voiced their wish to annex Canada.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody expects China to remotely disable J-35's on a whim... But they might do it as they prepare to invade Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Is Canada planning to go to war with China if they annex Taiwan?