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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is a pathway to Starship Trooper's soldiers being guaranteed citizenship. Imagine having a child here and they aren't a citizen but you are.

[–] troed@fedia.io 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The whole MAGA movement can be described as people who did not get the point in Starship Troopers.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they read the book instead of watching the movie?

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Imagine?? Lol

If that were the case we wouldn’t be in this mess!

[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Jus soli (birthright citizenship based on where you are born) is not that common to be fair. I don't think it's the standard in Europe for example. You have to reside (legally) in a country for a certain number of years AND pay taxes for them to be eligible to get citinzenship

[–] kava@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

it's very common in colonial societies like most of the Americas. without this type of law there wouldn't be any American citizens. even before the 14th amendment we had birth right citizenship by common law precedence

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In other words, birthright citizenship exists to increase the population size.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

pretty much. we all grew up in the US being taught it's a country of immigrants and the "bring me your weary your hungry your whatever masses to be free"

it's actually kind of fascinating to see that ideology shift so fast it's giving whiplash. turns out we actually kinda need these people for our economy otherwise we'll end up like European countries with stagnating economies until we eventually get overrun by China

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

It's never been our ideology in practice.

In reality it's been, "Send us your weary your hungry masses to be worked to death and treated like lesser beings."

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't really care how common it is?

[–] girthero@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Right especially because its cut and dry in the constitution. Don't like it get a 2/3 majority to agree!

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

That sounds like just another method of exploitation. No dig at any specific countries. I just know in the US this will be used to exploit, isolate, and entrap people.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 4 points 11 months ago

Here's a map of birthright vs inherited citizenship. As you can see, most of the Americas have birthright citizenship.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

It's not guaranteed, but service does help get citizenship: https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

[–] O_R_I_O_N@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Imagine if only old people ran the government... What a nightmare that would be.... Ah fuck.