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Are Lineage and Graphene still decent android alternatives?
They're both android, but without the Google services tacked on. The question is, how will the Android Open Source project fare if Google is forced to divest from it? And where does that leave the ungoogled ROMs?
Can you explain to me, an Idiot™, what that would mean for me in practice if I switched? Would I be able to use the play store? What about my bank's app, or something that uses location, like Grindr?
Yep! Most Android roms allow you to install a Google apps pack ("GApps") on top of the system, so they're installed as system apps like normal. There's different packs, from the bare essentials (play store and play services) to basically everything made by google.
GrapheneOS is cool because it has a sandboxing layer, so you can install those same Google apps as normal user apps and avoid giving them the extra permissions they get as system apps.
This depends. Google's Play Integrity API is used by a bunch of apps to easily enforce "security" and disallow using the app if the integrity check fails. Thing is, the things it checks for aren't necessarily what's secure, but more like what does Google approve of. For example, I would consider GrapheneOS at least as secure as official Google Android, but it can fail the Integrity API checks.
My bank apps work fine, but that doesn't mean yours will. And I don't use dating apps, so no clue there. Really, you'ld just have to try it and see how well it works. Just be sure you have good backups if you do, and also know how to restore the original system if using an alternate doesn't work out.