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After calling for the permanent ‘resettlement’ of all Palestinians from Gaza earlier in the day, Trump said the US would 'take over' and 'own' the Gaza Strip. The US president said he envisioned 'long-term' US ownership of Gaza after Palestinians were moved elsewhere

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Keep these coming. Don't let these people forget their culpability in single-issuing us to fascism or let them blame shift.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed, 100%. People spouting that nonsense should be laughed and pointed at IRL when they start up with their nonsense.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes keep saying this it will ensure people vote for democrats next time! It won’t alienate the shrinking base at all. People love it when you blame them for not voting for a candidate that did nothing to address people’s concerns or issues!

[–] ptz@dubvee.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. Gave up on that months ago when it actually mattered. Now I just want the people who refused to help stop this from happening know how much I blame and hate them. That is all.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Who paved the road in which is now being driven?

There's no reason to infight we're all on the same side against fascism and western hegemony.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok prove it get your republican goons to enforce the checks and balances against what’s happening.

Until then you’re not on any side against this.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

your republican goons

What are you even talking about man? I'm about as far away from Republican as it gets. Try having a conversation before lobbing insults, I know it's hard nowadays but it can be done.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we're all on the same side against fascism

Then where were those people in November when it freaking mattered?

I'm absolutely entitled to hold a grudge against the single-issuers who helped get us here. Actions, or in this case, inactions have consequences, and I'm not going to coddle them when they come crawling back to reality after they were told over and over again what was at stake.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your argument is only valid to an EXTREMELY small selection of people in 4 battleground states, but you project it to every leftist who criticized the Biden Kamala admin for allowing Gaza to be destroyed.

It's much easier to place blame on made up people who have no power than it is to place the blame on the fact that our government systems have allowed this to happen. Why did the Democrats maintain full control of congress and yet nothing was done. They are the ones who held the power to stop this, yet nothing was done. Do not blame 10,000 individuals some with family who have been killed in Gaza when the blame should be placed on our government systems and Democratic parties.

We should instead be uniting on solutions to these problems not shoving blame down leftists throats who the vast majority of are not responsible for the problem at hand.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a lot of blame shifting there.

The facts are:

  • Our elections are FPTP and no amount of wishing it was otherwise was going to change that
  • Even if people thought Harris wouldn't have been great, it took zero additional brain cells to realize Trump ~~would have been~~ ~~will be~~ is infinitely worse.
  • Yes, I will "shove it down the leftists throats", as you say, since they were big cheerleaders against voting for the only candidate that stood a chance of defeating Trump. Sowing doubt/division when we should have been unified against that threat (wasn't that what you were originally chastising me for?)
  • The people failed, not the government. We had a free and fair election, saw what was at stake, and still people decided to sit it out or throw their vote away.

I haven't browsed your history, and at this point, I don't care to, but if that's the kind of messaging you were throwing out up to November, then YOU. ARE. AT. LEAST. PARTIALLY. RESPONSIBLE.

Edit: Also, I never once said "leftists" until I quoted you: You threw and jumped on that grenade all by yourself.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

-The people failed, not the government. We had a free and fair election, saw what at stake, and still people decided to sit it out or throw their vote away.

Insane take and that's all I have left to say 😂. Feel free to continue supporting democrats on your hedonic treadmill instead of moving towards a better world for everyone.