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Americans are posting videos about 3D-printed guns on the Chinese video app RedNote, despite the content being illegal in China.

While some users are uncomfortable with the topic, others see it as an opportunity for cultural exchange.

The future of TikTok remains uncertain as the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the ban.

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[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.

But, idk how any of what you said makes them a “meme”. You can buy a barrel online for cheap, also ammo, and I don’t have to go through a government check. That’s what a lot of these people want to avoid.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In most countries, the barrel or other pressures bearing parts are the regulated piece. We are the weird ones for regulating receivers instead.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, the article references Americans, I’m American, so okay?

Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Europeans can also get guns mailed to their front door, are we just comparing gun laws?

I mean, there’s a lot of context surrounding licensing and pre-approval to get that mail order heater in Europe. Local laws vary, yadda yadda

And if you collect old guns and have a C&R license, you too can get guns delivered to your door in America.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the UK you can also purchase a pistol with bitcoin on the dark web and have it delivered to a train station locker, but that is not legal at all.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This sounds interesting. Tell us more.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, 1000%. Also, with a C&R license, you’re not legally purchasing a “firearm”. It’s a curio or relic, but yeah, point still stands.

Also, none of that has anything to do with the discussion at hand, which was sorta my point.

[–] nerdyshades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have my 03-FFL, and "Curio & Relic" is a classification that firearms can fall into, defined as firearms manufactured 50-years or more ago. Legally, by definition, you are still purchasing a firearm. You've just had more background checks to bypass some of the rules in most states about transfers, if the firearm you are buying qualifies as a "Curio & Relic".

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nerdyshades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reading my comment back makes it sound more dick-ish than I intended, my bad. You just happened to mention a special interest of mine that I know a lot about.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

No worries dog. I was also tired of semantic battles at that point and also wasn’t having it, so also came off as a dick. I also have my 07 FFL and SOT, so, trust me, I get it, I was/am wrong. The correction is warranted. Just not at all the conversation I was trying to have lmao

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It mentions sending videos about them to China. Where most of those videos are useless because the parts and ammo are not sold there.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay so a lot of work to create the barrel, but the gun still takes 9mm ammunition. And if someone in China can get their hands on ammo they can get their hands on a gun.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Okay? I don’t know what you’re arguing here? 3D printed guns aren’t a meme. Some don’t require any regulated parts. I don’t care if the average Chinese person can or will get their hands on one. You can just say you didn’t know what you were talking about when you said 3d printed guns are a “meme”. It’s not that deep

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Electro chemical machining can make a barrel.

Yes, but that's not 3d printing any more.

It's a separate process requiring separate tools, materials and skills.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you can make anything with that additional process. SO it's going to be difficult for a government to lock down those additional processes.

[–] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can make barrels and stuff like that on a milling machine and a lathe. Not just shitty parts but better than most big manufacturers put out. Government can't control manufacturing.

Still not 3d printing.

edit: Typo

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Barrels require rifling. It is fairly difficult to manually create the groove as it requires a lot of tooling. Not impossible. But not something people will do to create a single gun. Only the barrel would be more work than assembling the rest of the gun.

Purchased ammo and other parts are specific to the US. 3D printed guns give people the illusion that they can make the entire gun using a 3d printer and off the shelf consumer parts. But most 3d printed guns are made by buying all the required metal parts for guns and printing out the exterior.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, that is a lot of tooling and a lot of work.

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

It’s really not.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

All you need is a hydraulic tube for the barrel. to make the rifling you need some copper wire, electricity and water

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm thinking that an octagonal x-section barrel with a twist could be done by electro-machining.