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Why treat Proton like it's the work of a single person rather than a large team?
Companies are monarchies.
A single person speaks for that company and drives the direction of that company the workers making the product have little to no say in the overarching ideals and principles of that product.
I don't think any CEO I've ever worked for speaks for me...
No but your work progresses their goals
Seems to me like the issue is that CEOs exist, not that this particular one has some personal opinion.
Both can be true. CEOs influence the direction the company takes.
Money talks and in that case, lots of people in this thread don't want to encourage a company that endorse a fascist. Which is legitimate.
CEO's get to decide what to do with the money the company earns. The workers dont.
And is there a risk he may invest money further into fascism?
of course
I wonder what kind of "republican" changes to Proton would be possible to put forth without angering the majority of users or defeating the point of Proton altogether. That's why I don't see this as a prelude to anything major. What do you think?
donating money to parties/candidates is a common thing for companies and wealthy individuals to do
Good point. It can translate to direct money donations to a political party.
There was a reply from the official proton handle on mastodon doubling down on the Andy's take.
But wouldn't it be more productive to talk to Proton about this obviously crappy PR instead of descending into unnecessary cancelling of a perfectly good service?
And how do we know none of the other services also have fascists in their midst? This circle could go on forever until no services are left.
Asking seriously.
I did. Their reply was generic and useless. "Yen said on Reddit it's his personal opinion." Yet he used the Proton admin account to spread his opinion (based on fake news).
Fair enough! So what do you hope to accomplish with this action? Like, goal wise, is it to change Proton's stance? Or is it more about being an ethical consumer?
It's so I hopefully get the right answer so I don't have to switch to an alternative for my calender (just switched from Google), my mail, vpn and password manager. I am a paying customer since May 2019. I was happy with Proton and what they stand for, their CEO is now ruining everything. "We want to switch to a foundation so our goal will be preserved." Sure... Spreading fake news and taking a political stance in the US, while at the same time claiming to be Swiss neutral. Why do almost all techbros have to become evil now Trump is becoming president again. Even Swiss foundations.
Yeah I can understand that completely.
Because its not an unimportant person praising the fascists.
Imagine it like a pyramid scheme.