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General question that always gets everyone's cankers up.
When you get old, who is taking care of you?
A nursing home.
My one grandma lived with my aunt in her later years and both parties clearly hated it.
But beyond that, holy shit does it seem crazy to have kids as a goddamn retirement plan.
Crazy? It's evil.
Coercion runs so deeply through our ideological past that it's formed toxic sludge of anti-intellectualism. It's also, however, an effective way to castrate a population.
If a new world is to emerge, I sure hope it hurries along.
Bless you. You know you're going to have the money for that when you're old? Have you seen the quality of nursing homes?
Have you seen the quality of the children, my guy?
Children are no longer a guarantee that youll be taken care of in old age.
I can pull out like 3 different news stories of where a child killed their own senior parents.
Nursing homes arent the best, children arent the best either. Nothing is guaranteed anymore when it comes to care in seniority...well....except you taking care of yourself that is. Heck , now that I think about it even pensions and social security are in a state of limbo in so many countries cause greedy policitcians have to pay off the debts that they have to their billionaire puppeteers lol!
What a bizarre piece of financial planning. Do you think kids are less expensive than saving for retirement?
And yes, there are high quality nursing homes. Especially if I'm willing to pay a fraction of what a child costs?
And the fact that he motivation is as a retirement plan, goddamn does that feel selfish and presumptive.
I hate this question. It implies that you should be taking care of your parents when they’re old. It’s not feasible full time anymore. And aren’t we supposed to be independent adults? Shouldn’t they have been ready for retirement? I like to throw a lot of shit that olds say to young’s first. The irony of it all.
You seem to think the average person actually plans for this. They don't and even in 1st world countries that care for their elderly the system is still strained and crumbling.
If you honestly think you'll be rich good on you and best of luck in a retirement home. The vast majority of people are not going to be that lucky.
This screams of the same youth that say they don't need to pay for health insurance because they're healthy. You really think you know what the future is going to bring?
Damn.
And to be clear, no sane adult expects their kids to pick up the slack but statistics show that is what happens worldwide.
Kids are the primary point of care for their aging and elderly parents.
A lot of you are going to have a cold snap of reality when you're old and alone.
I have health insurance. I pay for it with my money so that my money that I worked hard for can take care of me when I need it. I do not expect anyone else to move mountains to "take care" of me when I'm older. I'm not putting that burden on anyone else; when it comes to the point where it's a very real possibility that I'll need someone else's assistance to survive I'll just end it and be done with it.
And yet here you are, expecting exactly that and superciliously judging us for thinking different.
The same people that take care of people that have kids? I guess a counter-question then, do you expect your children to take care of you? Do you expect them to let you move in? Do you think a majority of people take care of their parents?
Guess we could define what "take care of" means exactly cuz ngl most people just stick their parents in a home and visit around the holidays.
People vastly underestimate how much family is involved with end of life care. My parents are mid-70s and mid-80s and not in a home not that we could afford it. My sister and I jiggle all the things life throws at them.
Youth seriously does not realize the amount of appointments let alone care goes into looking after our elders. Bless you all but you're naive as all get out.
I'm sorry, I know this is a serious topic but reading this typo made me snort-laugh. (Please don't fix it!)
Your condescension and selfishness isn't helping your case. Oh and good job ignoring every single one of my questions. Try again sweetie.
If this is your reason for having kids, you shouldn't be getting kids.
Your kids, ig. 🤷🏼♂️
Nope.
ok...but ...why NOT your kids?
What law states that none of YOUR KIDS SPECIFICALLY , yes you whoisearth@lemmy.ca, are allowed to work at a retirement home or in a medical field?
When your parents get old, who's taking care of them?
My sister and I.
Weird, I'm letting professionals do 90% of the work for my parents. Seems odd that you're willing to improvise something that important
The people I pay to do it with the money I saved by not having kids.
Also neither my wife nor I are all that interested in hanging around past the point where someone else has to wipe our asses, so old age care is a pretty minor concern.
This is always the question and the answer is two point.
First, that’s an incredibly selfish reason to have kids. I won’t be taking care of anyone into their old age as payment for being born.
Secondly, I’ll pay a nurse to take care of me with all the money I have from not having kids. It’s crazy what compound interest will do when you’re not broke with 3-4 kids.
Who says I'm gonna want someone taking care of me instead of just letting me die? Have you seen the world? I don't have the positivity to think it'll get better to the point of being worth it in 40-50 years.
I think I might like to have children one day, but I don't think children should be viewed as a selfish investment, existing just to benefit yourself.
In fact, if I do have kids one day, I think I would prefer for them to invest as little as possible in my old age care, so they can instead use their money to improve their own lives.
We build statues of genocidal racists like winston churchill and of convicted pedophiles like karl malone ...
but then we dont build statues of selfless people with common sense like you and the people who have done what you just said and THATS another thing I despise about humanity.
We probably should build statues of selfless people, but I wouldn't put myself in that group. I know I have definitely been selfish at some points in life. Properly selfless people are those who give lots to charity, or volunteer for charity, and so on.
When it comes to wanting good things for your kids, surely that is very common. Many parents expend a lot of energy to try to provide the best lives for their kids, although you do sometimes come across parents who put themselves ahead of their kids.
but do really think youve been as selfish as someone like wiston churchill?
And also the thing is that even those selfless parents are more worthy of having a statue built in their honor AND STILL ....humanjty chooses the most selfish and genocidal people ever to honor time and time and time again
I don't know lots about Churchill, even though I should because I'm British.
Yeah sometimes statues get built of people who aren't too great. Like George Washington, who owned slaves. I guess statues are usually commissioned and paid for by wealthy and powerful people who are trying to propagandise their viewpoints, because if ordinary people believe the propaganda of the powerful, then the powerful get to stay in power.
Also you shouldnt know about churchill eveb if you are British seeing as how he was THIS genocidal 😐 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=plZkO3y9_hY&pp=ygUZYmFkZW1wYW5hZGEgYmVuZ2FsIGZhbWluZQ%3D%3D
Let it be known that I know a dude who has like 5 or 6 other siblings who do not care for or visit any of their parents now that their parents are theyre both seniors. If anything they actually do not give a flying fuck about their parents seeing as how one of them abused them and and the other didnt want to pay child support after he cheated and so he neglected them lol.
So ...they have all these kids...but none of those kids is there for them now lol!
Having kids is no guarantee that theyll be there for you in seniority lol.
Who's getting old?
That's the most selfish thing you could ever do
Breeding a servant to take care of your future needs
It says a lot about you.
I mean that's what you want kids for? to be your live in nurse? You dont want them to be successful people who will have better things to do than care for an infirm elderly person??