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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 40 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 21 hours ago

Would be a rad way to thin out the herd of xenophobic rich people, though πŸ€”

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Damn snobbish animals living in gated communities.

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And sharks regularly infest zoos?

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 12 hours ago

Wouldn't you if you were a shark? It's a whole smΓΆrgΓ₯sbord

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Valid point. Although that's without their consent, whereas most humans infesting the ocean are choosing to remain there, USS Abraham Lincoln sailors notwithstanding.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats.

For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago

So the right phrasing would be "no, it's their natural habitat", not "no, they live there", since, and this was my point if you go back, if an animal infests something it usually lives there, making the point in the post redundant.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes the white folks came and made a mess of the place. Which, if sharks chose to move into your house, they would also do. Probably leave the taps running all over the place too

[–] gjoel@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

But the post is about sharks in the ocean. It is their natural habitat, they live there, but because they're sometimes inconvenient to humans, humans sometimes use the phrase "shark-infested waters", which can be damaging because it frames disrupting the ecosystem as some kind of defensive act.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And my point was it's the humans that don't belong and cause damage and yet there have been humans infesting the oceans since time immemorial and it's only getting worse.

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

Right, I agree with you. I was responding to gjoel's comments.