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I think it's time for the German elite to let it go. That's it, it was awful, but it was almost a century ago. No living German was part of it. It's time to move on.
This Germany was the one who let most of the profiteurs of the holocaudt walk away and looked away until the '68 revolte pushed that it couldn't be looked away anymore.
The German elite should learn better lessons from it, that no people should be discriminated and violated and that no war is justified.
To remember is to change.
Exactly. No living palestinian nor israeli was part of the UN suggestion of the two state solution (which was rejected and a war was started...and was lost. Then another one.). So, time to move on?
In reality it looks more convenient not to move on - but to act as if the 1947 plan by UN hasn't been rejected...by the very own predecessors.
It's not the responsibility of today's Germany to help the two sides out of the conflict where they are stuck for decades now. Both not even recognising as states (so not respecting borders?).
Germany signed many international treaties forcing then legally to act and help Palestinians. Those treaties did not tell Germany to give weapons for decades so Israel exterminate palestinians.
The two state solution was always a non solution. Jews didn't have enough territories anywhere to make a state without ethenic cleansing.
As long as the resources (provided by Germany and others) in Gaza are handled and distributed by local paramilitaries (hamass) - and the same help can be seen as supporting and enabling attacks as the 7th of October (which you conveniently ignore)
You're blaming the other side (ignoring - or maybe approving?! - the atrocities made by the other)
Israel is the settler colonial. It is like saying we should have not support neither ukraine and russia or we should have neither supporter the allies and the axis. You are the same type of people who would have defended the slave owners after the Nat Turner uprise.
Yo are part of the problem , you are against international obligation that obligate germany legally to stop all aid to Israel
There is no point in time when Ukraine has been building own identity solely on eliminating Russia.
And i have yet to witness any official voices inside Gaza appealing to coexist with the neighbouring country of Israel.
Until these voices freely and safely exist, as political representatives and an economical local force (and not being killed by any paramilitary like hamass or fatah) - I will not buy ANY deceitful and false comparison to Ukraine.
Israel is building an identity on eliminating palestinians and currently doing it. The day palestinians are free they will accept coexistence. Black South african accepted coexistence once the oppressor let them free
Israel is the colonizer, Russia is the colonizer there is no false equivalence
The PA recognized Israel and stopped any military activity Israel tqhnks them by building more colonies and arming and protecting the settler terrorism. The golan height did not attack Israel for decades, Israel continue to colonize it
Are you denying that Israel is a settler colonial power? It is not hateful claims it is reality
You are the same type of people who would have demonized the First Nations and supported the colonization of their land
Netanyahu compared Palestinians to amalek which advocate for the murder of every single men, women and infants
Gonna ask both of you to tone down the argument or walk away from it, because both have made some statements that almost cross the line where I have to enforce the rules.
Ok, this has been a heated discussion indeed. I wish it included less speculative claims over facts.
It's a shame you've deleted (i suppose?) the prev.commest, where i've already concluded it's enough.