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"Clean Wehrmacht" is a myth, your position on the other side is "Sippenhaft". People didn't exactly have a choice to join the Wehrmacht (unless you consider it a choice when the only alternative is suicide), nor did they have a choice on which front to end up. They did have mostly a choice to join the SS though.
You found all sorts of people in the Wehrmacht. Those who hated the regime and the war but liked to hang on to their life, those who were indifferent, you had opportunists and you had dyed in the wool supporters of the regime and the ideology. I am pretty sure one of my grandfathers was on the one side while the other was on the other. The one who prayed for his own side to lose ended up in a Russian gulag, while the other had a relatively easy time in a British POW camp. Life isn't fair.
It is a pity, no one here is actually explaining what is so terrible about my comment above.
The Wehrmacht was not some innocent organisation, it was the army of the Nazi regime, a draft army, inherited by the state that the Nazis took over and transformed into the army of their genocidal imperialist regime, as such it was of course also a pillar of their regime. For Americans to maybe get an understanding, the right question to ask in this regard is not what you would think about members of ICE but what you think about members of the US army that were drafted into the Vietnam war, with their units involved in war crimes. That is a poor comparison as the Wehrmacht did way more horrible things on a much bigger scale but it is a less flawed comparison than thinking about ICE, which really is not an army but a SA like mob with only voluntary members.
I am nowhere defending that Oberacker. He sure sounds like someone who would have loved to be in the shoes of his grandfather and that is something only a Nazi would think.
too many acronyms all up and down the thread. not your fault my brain is numb. South Africa? Sturm...Arb...needentolernenmasdeustchen?
Sturmabteilung. Hey, its shorter than many English words, and given that it translates to "storm department", "ice" sounds rather fitting.