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[–] Airfried@piefed.social 69 points 1 month ago (4 children)

My god they're going to imprison the poor guy forever without a trial, won't they?

[–] AngryRedHerring@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The feds didn't get him on murder. My first thought when I saw this is that he has very clever defense attorneys that at least managed to frustrate the state prosecutors by having him plead to a federal non-murder charge that could shut down the State murder case through double jeopardy.

I can't remember any other time in my life that I've been hoping somebody would get off on a technicality

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a conspiracy theorist: The bigger question is, I wonder what they're distracting us from this week? They're gonna hold him to use his presence as a distraction when they need one. Other than that, he is a suspected murderer and they'll use that as the official reason for holding him but we all know, deep down inside, he's now a tool to be used to distract us.

So we should all be asking the questions: Who are we invading this week? Where's the next biggest arsenal shipment heading? Who's going to be teaming up with Israel this week? Is Germany teaming up with Israel the will of the US or is it defeatism?

What is going on that they just plopped him into the news?

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Aha!

Funny that you should mention distractions because when I was undistracted I come upon this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JQb3g0AW5M&pp=ygUQYmFkZW1wYW5hZGEgZ29sZA%3D%3D

Stealing their oil AND NOW their gold too?! Bruh.... reza shah has found a new home in Caracas and weve been diistracted as he made his way deep into Venezuela I guess lol 🤷🏿‍♂️

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They cannot do that. If they aren't going to try him, they must release him.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 27 points 1 month ago

You must be new here. That's not how the American ~~justice~~ punishment system works.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

.... They MUST release him??!

....ooooh my Sweet Summer Child👨‍🍼

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The trial in the state can't move forward until double jeopardy is determined to apply or not. Did you think they just suspended the trial cause evil? Cause I'm not following your statement otherwise

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did you think they just suspended the trial cause evil?

...Yes?

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's suspended because there's no point in holding a trial if it's going to be overturned on double jeopardy. It's indefinite since there's no point in scheduling a follow-up until the question of it being double jeopardy is answered.

Like, guys, stop attributing motivations to what is arguably the only way forward.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Only way forward? They didn’t have to file the double jeopardy cases in the first place. They chose to, in order to be evil and harass and torture him with the legal system to the maximum extent possible.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While normally that could be the case, but in this case he isn't getting released either way.

The trial moving forward would be the worse scenario for the defendant. The state charges are worse than the federal charges. The later or never the state case gets tried, the better for him.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The point I was making is that there used to be a human rights violation and against the First and Fifth Amendments to hold someone indefinitely without a trial. But that ended in 2014.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It is totally reasonable to criticize length of detention while denying the right to a reasonable trial in general.

However this just happens to not be applicable in this specific situation. The guy entered a guilty plea and so will not be released anyway, and he himself requested the case be dismissed causing the delay. If he went along with it, he could have had a trial sooner but wants the delay in hopes of having it dismissed. Which is totally sensible and he has literally nothing to gain by having the trial sooner given that he is almost certainly due for years of imprisonment under his guilty federal plea.

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes. Yes that is evil.

Make a decision or release him. It's literally that easy (im aware courts take longer to do everything but suspending indefinitely is kind of insane)

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

"Release him"? Dude, he's in jail pending sentencing for his federal case. There is no releasing at this point. This isn't anyone twisting a knife, it's just not scheduling a new court date until the double jeopardy question is resolved. Y'all need to chill and put your heads on before you react to things.