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[–] Elting@piefed.social 84 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Most people with home gardens have so much produce that they can't even give it away lol. I grew tomatoes last year and it was all I could do to keep up with three plants in the late summer.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

sure but you don't have tomatoes all year, only a short time, even if you bottle some.

Being self reliant is mostly impossible if you cant also hunt and forage No ones growing their own wheat for example to make their own bread, let alone collecting the salt they need as well.

we lived off grid for a decade with a massive garden, chickens, ducks, heaps of fruit trees, made our own compost etc

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

i would go for herbs and spices instead maybe that would be worth the effort

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I grow tomatoes because they taste infinitely better than what you can buy.

Yes, I end up with more tomatoes than I can consume. For about one month. For about 8 months of the year if I want fresh tomatoes I have to buy them still.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Learn canning, return to the Old Ways

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But we've abandoned germ theory, so it'll be more interesting. Spicy canning.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

You still need to seal out the ghosts who fart mold spores

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Why don't you can and freeze your extra tomatoes?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'm just confused about how you can have more tomatoes than you could possibly eat during grow season, but still have to buy tomatoes for 3/4 of the year

[–] igmelonh@feddit.online 38 points 23 hours ago

They said they have to buy them if they want fresh tomatoes, not just in general. ie frozen isn't fresh

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I said fresh tomatoes. You can't make a salad with frozen tomatoes.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago

You don't make friends with salad

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What, everyone loves crunchy salad

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

If I don't crack a tooth eating a salad, it wasn't a good salad.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Because you said you buy them from the store off-season.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I said fresh tomatoes.

You don't make a tomato salad with frozen tomatoes.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 9 points 22 hours ago

Not with that attitude.

But no, really, you made the right call here.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 22 hours ago

Fight fight fight!

We can have a UFC match at the white house. It'll be awesome. Wait…

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 20 hours ago

The information was never withheld. It was never asked for.

...still, tho. That whole back and forth for one gag?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder, could you freeze a tomato salad? I make mine with a ton of oil and vinegar (plus they are sliced, so a ton of tomato juice) to the point where it’s almost like a soup. I’ve never tried but I wonder if that would freeze ok.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It would not. If you want to stick it in a freezer, you’d have to displace all the water with anti-freeze first, otherwise mush. Bonus, antifreeze is delicious. A tasty last meal!

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If it were possible and safe to freeze raw tomatoes for salads, you would have seen packages of them in your grocer's freezer. If you're willing to use them for soup/stew, here's how to do it without making anyone sick:

https://nchfp.uga.edu/how/freeze/vegetable/freezing-tomatoes/

There's links on the page for a lot of other garden vegetables as well.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I was thinking I could freeze the salad after making it. Maybe I make my tomato salads different than others here. I use so much vinegar and oil it’s practically a soup. And soup freezes, so I’m thinking this would work. (I am not thinking of freezing whole fresh tomatoes, if that’s what people are wondering.)

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Here's something else I found, looks like you can freeze the tomatoes in their skins, and then slip the skins off and turn the still-icy flesh into gazpacho. Might be an easier way to go, if you decide you like the salad-soup. https://ucanr.edu/sites/default/files/2019-10/312322.pdf

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

I get it, but it's really gonna be soup after you freeze and thaw it. Might develop a different flavor profile too. And if you keep it any real length of time, even frozen, you could be growing bacteria because they're not dead just slowed down. Read up on safe techniques on the website. And try freezing one portion of your salad for a few days, (that's at least as safe as leaving it in the fridge) then thaw it and see if it's going to be worth the trouble.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

If you decide you want to save on canned tomatoes for pasta and use the cash to buy winter salad tomatoes, here's the safe way to freeze some of your extras: https://nchfp.uga.edu/how/freeze/vegetable/freezing-tomatoes/

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How large is your garden mate? Or alternatively how bad are you at giving produce away? My grandparents have quite a large garden and have never had issues with too much stuff

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

Depends on what you grow.

I had a half acre, and something like tomatoes means you have to can them because you can't eat them all once they are ready, and a pear tree that would produce wheel barrows full for weeks so I had to start brewing Perry.

But in the city with only a 10x10 plot it was pretty slow going except for cherry tomatoes...those grew like wildfire up and over the fence etc. So many we had to give them away.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I wonder, do they can stuff as well? Thats the only way to fully utilize a large gardens produce I think. And yes, I did eat all those tomatoes.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They sure do. Freeze a lot of it as well. Leeks, raspberries, drying spices, making cherry/apricot kompot, making marmelade.....

The only thing they complained about this year has been too many cherries. I'd know I had to pick like ⅓ of them.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

we have a loquat tree(30+years from parents old house) from a layering, it produces alot of fruits, the bees go nuts for the flowers.

[–] Elting@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really quite a blessing to have people with such a wealth of knowledge about gardening in the family. It takes a lot of seasons to learn how to be so good at it.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

My dad has all sorts of fruit trees and vegetables, I'm over here now trying to keep a rosemary alive, its supposed to me super resilient but it keeps drying up so I water it but maybe the clay dirt is too much for it.

Poor thing has been planted and removed like 5 times due to different house projects. Its like as soon as I plant it all of a sudden they want to use that space

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve seen rosemary grow in the desert without needing much other than an automated lawn (drip) sprinkler, on a timer like 3(?) times a week?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

wild ones are likely evolved to grow in that environment over cultivated domestic variety, probably more robust.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

We cooked with it. It was maybe a bit more robust (so slightly thicker, harder) but it had all the same flavor. Maybe even better, fresher than what I was used to.

My favorite was with potatoes and lamb.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago

Definitely! For example, a zucchini plant might give you a fruit per day for about 3 weeks, which is more than my family can eat. The options for us then are a) canning such as zucchini relish (highly recommend!) or b) grate it and freeze it for future baking (zucchini bread, egg bites, etc.)

[–] lol_idk@piefed.social 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

One tomato plant can be too many for a family of 4. You don’t need a large garden to have too many tomatoes (or zucchini)

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of monster tomato plants are you growing? We are a family of 5 and we have 10+tomato plants which often don't feel enough.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 13 hours ago

I had 1 tomato plant that made 4 huge tomatoes per day. I had to prop it up from sagging, it was a monster. It was great though, I made so many tomato based meals, that one plant basically fed my whole family for months. All I did was, good soil, in a pot, watering it every day, in a sunny but not burn-y location. I think that's all plants though, and I know my advice is equivalent to "draw the rest of the owl", but gardening really is just doing the basics very well

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 21 hours ago

That's true, but it's also nowhere near enough to live on.

They get a huge batch of something all at once, and then it's a scramble to eat it, give it away, pickle it, can it, etc. But, the total number of calories produced throughout the season isn't enough to even keep one person alive.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 22 hours ago

Timing is hard. They product like mad in a very short window.

Canning is a layer of hell.

Freeze dryers are slow, expensive and consume a lot of electricity.

If I had the time/space, I'd stagger my planting, start it indoors, start another batch on time and another late.

[–] Aremel@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I feel so seen. I ended up making pizza sauce with all of my tomatoes. I would have homemade pizza about once or twice a month, and that is after using as many tomatoes as I could for sandwiches. In my experience, I would say 3 plants is just before the threshold of "too many".

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

I live in a town house but I don't actually have a grassy backyard, just a small shared deck. I've filled it with as many planter boxes as I can but last year I was only able to get two tomatoes to grow and both were stolen by squirrels 🥹

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol yeah, I have dozens of tomatoes sitting out there on the vine right now because we can't eat them fast enough.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago

You probably could if it was all you had

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

It's a weird split. I've tried to have a garden and would get like five fruits.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 points 20 hours ago

I can't get anything to grow because the dumb animals keepnwating everything, despite my efforts.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 23 hours ago

I was about to say. Everyone I've ever known who grew tomatoes always had significantly more than they could personally use.

My mom fills an upright freezer with salsa and tomato sauce from like 5 plants each year.

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