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Luke 1:38 Then Mary said: “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. Let it be done to me according to your word.” And the Angel departed from her.
Is handmaid a euphemism for concubine/sex slave?
Or is it more like "well he's my boss so I guess I have to"
handmaid means servamt
and its like "The Lord has decided this, I agree as its his will"
She was fourteen.
sources?
the Bible never mentions her age
Which Bible? Which translation, which council? Because most of the stuff in "the Bible" changes with every translation. An example would be the relatively recent changes to condemn homosexuality when originally they were condemning the Roman practice of pederasty.
Anyway, first century Jewish girls were usually betrothed during or immediately after puberty and as she was already promised to Joseph according to one gospel she would have been between 12 and 16. It's possible she was an outlier but much more likely if she did exist she was pregnant around 14.
read the original greek and hebrew at this point if you hate translations this much
You are so close to the point. It's all made up bro. It's fiction.
it isnt
proof?
You can't prove a negative. You're the one that claims god exists, where's your empirical evidence? Where's your proof? Repeatable, testable proof? As it is there's no evidence whatsoever of any deity of any kind so there's no reason to believe they'd exist. You say they do, that's your claim, now prove it. Maybe learn some rhetoric and logic first so you can actually have a legitimate good faith discussion.
Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light.” And light became.
how did the Apostle John and the author of Genesis know thay light can be created from matter more than a thousand years before it was proven via colliders?
John 1:4 Life was in Him, and Life was the light of men.
They didn't? Nothing in that passage implies anything scientific or anything even about the nature of light and the relationship between matter and energy.
the Bible is in parables
and yes, it does? Light can create, and God is the light of all men, God is the creator of all men, and God also illuminates our lives in a special way
The new testament isn't in parables at all. Some of the characters in the new testament use parables, but that's not the same. And if the bible is parables, nothing in it is meant to be taken in any way literally which clearly isn't the case. You're taking contradictory positions. And nothing about the passage implies anything about light or physics whatsoever.
MOST of it is in parables, the parts about Jesus and his life are personal testimonies of the disciples
Do your arms get tired carrying those goalposts?
Ok if that's your proof then I can use quotes from the Hobbit to prove dragons are real.
if tolkien predicted particle physics 2000+ years ago before modern colliders I would say he has a point
The Bible didn't predict particle physics and I'm genuinely confused as to how you get that interpretation.
it implies that light can possibly create matter
No it doesn't.
it does
How? Be specific. Use established theological scholarly sources for your assertion. I've never heard anyone make this type of claim before. What denomination do you practice, and is that belief in line with your established canon?
... And servant is a common euphemism for slave in the bible.
In modern language a servant is someone that is paid money to do work and can leave the relationship without fear.
A slave is someone that does work because of obligation and isn't necessarily provided anything to survive (ie may also need to labour to provide themselves food/shelter) and cannot leave the relationship without fear of retribution.
Which word seems more accurate for what's described in Luke 1:26-38? Was Mary's consent sought, or was she just informed what was expected of her? To me it seems like she doesn't say "Oh Elizabeth, remember how I've always wanted to have God's baby, but now that I'm married to Joseph I can't" instead she is informed of the plan and just says "if you say so".
I think it would be more likely that a good god would obtain consent, but that Luke didn't find evidence of it, and so he wrote his own account of what happened based on his cultural expectations of what that interaction would have been like. What do you think? Would the Gospel of Luke be better of it presented the importance of consent, like maybe that would help men to treat women with respect.
the Bible is full of metaphors and parables
The Lord serves us every moment we are alive, so we should serve him too
Mary was informed, and thus agreed to it
God, as he is onmipotent, knew of Mary's obedience before she was even formed in the womb and thus chose her
Im sorry, my religion says your religion is all fabricated nonsense, so yes the church is sexist deal with it
Because of the implications... As his servant.
You really are just that annoying huh.
Damn son. Try not trying so hard. Honestly? Do anything different than what you’re attempting to rn. Nobody likes you.