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Former Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Monday said she’s “done” with the Republican Party, which she said has turned into the “America LAST” party.

Her comments came after right-wing commentator and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said he was done with the party after voting Republican his entire life.

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Also sometimes they switch completely, personally if someone wants to improve, if only a little I try to encourage it. If immediately they're met with hostility for improving then the only sensible direction for them to go is back. At the end of the day and as you pointed out in your comment, it's a numbers game. You can try to divide and conquer and also recruit. Defectors / converts are extremely useful at convincing more to convert which definitely won't happen if at the front door we're telling them to fuck off and suck a bag of dicks. So if people go against their poor judgements I'm all for it, one step closer to waking up, switching sides and adding to the numbers.

[–] NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah, you're on a goddamn roll. The best way to fight your enemies is to turn them into friends. The best way to fight racists is to get them to no longer be racist. Best way to fight nazis is to get them to not be a nazi. Etc. If you don't give them any opportunity to reform, then why the fuck would you expect them to change??? Normalize the fuck out of the above attitude.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

It's all pretty well outlined in the art of war and the 48 laws of power but as I like to put it, the war is never over until your enemy becomes your friend.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

On the other hand it teaches them that there are no consequences for their actions. And sure, if it's about a personal acquaintance going through issues I'm all for it but we are not talking about people looking to change their ways- they're still the same bigoted fascists that they were before, they're just shopping around for another Klan chapter to join because this one didn't pay well enough. That's not people you want to associate with, I'm getting Coriolanus vibes. Careful who you bring into your fold.

[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

I'm more so after the people she will influence. If it's signaled to them that changing their views is a bad idea then they are less likely to. Also I'm not looking for miracles, cracks and division in the party are also useful.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 16 hours ago

There have absolutely been consequences for their actions. Its just that people dont get "what they deserve" they just get what they get. The universe doesnt balance automatically for your idea of morals. Us humans are special cause we can enact consequences that the universe didnt. Hopefully we get there for them but that will be on those that can when we can. This isnt the time for getting lost to it.