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Meat has a bad reputation. Most people think of meat, especially red meat, as dangerously unhealthy. However, meat has unique properties that make it more nutritious, easier to digest, and less likely to irritate your body than vegetables. Does the science behind meat-phobia hold up under the microscope?

TLDR - Yes, meat is healthy - eat it.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey, please don't add substantive additions to a message after you sent it. I had missed your updates.

eating a plant based or reduced meat diet doesn’t mean someone will develop diabetes. Your original statement was a false equivalence.

I stand by what I said - type 2 diabetes is extremely expensive and is driven by the hyper-vegetarian food environment the world finds itself in. Yes a whole food plant based diet is less likely to develop T2D, but there are still fat vegans, so its not a guarantee.

We shouldn’t be dragged down into the discussion equivalent of side quests when there’s a main quest to manage.

Yes, people should not be afraid of meat and they should embrace it has a health tool.

Once again the background to this discussion is essentially the apocalypse aka a serious mass extinction in which 70% to 99% of all life on earth dies. Even if you were completely right (which you aren’t) the trade-off just isn’t there.

I disagree with your premise - right now 20% of the world calories from from animals, with human ingenuity we can increase this... but the real plague is metabolic impairment and while carnivore is probably the single most power tool here, it isn't the only tool - getting most people into a low carb or ketogenic state is going to be a massive improvement, and carnivore as a health tool can be used for people who still have issues (mostly gut issue, autoimmune, etc)

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

right now 20% of the world calories from animals

Where did you get that number? Our world data says it's more like 5%.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, do you think 5% sounds anywhere near accurate? Does that reflect your observations as a human? The people around you? Please apply some critical thinking to the things you read

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's hard to decide just based on my observations. I've travelled quite a bit.

In the west we can easily see 20-40% of calories coming from meat. But many people in the east like China and India eat meat only occasionally—like once a week.

So who knows it probably brings down the average to 5%?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago

One problem with the our would in data graph is its calories from protein. Animal sourced foods include fat too, which is actually the bulk of the calories.

Honestly, lots of our world in data graphs are problematic, I wouldn't recommend using them as a primary source.

But yes, 20% of human energy is derived from animal sources (well 18% but 20 is easier to say), africa the least as you surmised.

https://doi.org/10.1080/23308249.2022.2124364 - Contribution of Fish and Seafood to Global Food and Feed Supply: An Analysis of the FAO Food Balance Sheet for 2019

Globally, animal food products supplied 18.0% of total calorie intake, 39.9% of total protein supply, and 44.2% of total fat supply; terrestrial meat represented the largest source of animal protein consumed (44.1% total animal protein intake), followed by milk (25.9%), fish and seafood (16.5%), and eggs (9.2%; Table 1). Fish and seafood supplied 6.6% of total animal calorific supply, 16.5% of total animal protein supply and 3.1% of total animal fat supply on a global basis (Table 1); freshwater fish supplying over 43.0% of total fish and seafood animal protein supply, followed by pelagic fish (20.3%), demersal fish (15.0%), crustaceans (9.1%), other marine fish (6.0%), cephalopods (3.3%), other mollusks (3.3%) and other aquatic animals (0.4%; FAO 2022a)