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Fun fact, we store fat for energy. When we sleep, between meals we are always burning fat. Babies burn fat for fuel all the tiem.
Insulin resistant is the wrong term here, the body is not flooded with high levels of insulin in a fat metabolism. The proper term is glucose sparing, most of the body is going to burn fat for energy in this state with the major exception being red blood cells and about 5-15% of brain energy.
Will fail a improperly administered oral glucose tolerance test, OGTTs must be primed for accuracy. The body's response to insulin is very sensitive, but the pancreas isn't maintaining a hot cache of insulin, because you arn't using very much insulin. We have discussed this in detail before https://lemmy.world/post/46537093 . This is normal, your body doesn't waste energy. This has no negative downsides because the pancreas will just make more glucose on demand when you consume carbohydrates and elevate glucose levels, and fill up the quick release cache.
Citation please - typically this condition is caused by super high elevated insulin levels and full fat cells (and the fat has nowhere to go) typically in a pre-diabetic state.
The fat in the muscles wont cause insulin signaling issues, your confusing cause and effect. The fat is ectopically stored around the body BECAUSE of the elevated insulin. visceral fat, intramuscular fat is a hallmark of metabolic dysfunction caused by hyperinsulinemia. In fact this is EXACTLY how marbled meat is made in cows, they are forced to eat excessive carbohydrates leading to this very condition
Citation please - How can a diet without elevated blood glucose, and thus without elevated insulin lead to a condition of carbohydrate intolerance (type 2 diabetes). I already addressed the failings of a unprimed OGTT above in the ketogenic post i linked .
Is this LLM generated? As a quick test, tell me what insulin resistance is in 3 other words? And how would you correctly conduct an OGTT for someone fat adapted?
See rule 6. Your account is also 8 days old. This is a small specialist community for the discussion of metabolic health, so please read the rules and keep in mind rule 4. If you do wish to cite studies and evidence, you should have read the papers you are citing and be willing to engage in good faith discussion.
I don't consider LLM generated posts good faith discussion.
Hey, please don't add substantive additions to a message after you sent it. I had missed your updates.
I stand by what I said - type 2 diabetes is extremely expensive and is driven by the hyper-vegetarian food environment the world finds itself in. Yes a whole food plant based diet is less likely to develop T2D, but there are still fat vegans, so its not a guarantee.
Yes, people should not be afraid of meat and they should embrace it has a health tool.
I disagree with your premise - right now 20% of the world calories from from animals, with human ingenuity we can increase this... but the real plague is metabolic impairment and while carnivore is probably the single most power tool here, it isn't the only tool - getting most people into a low carb or ketogenic state is going to be a massive improvement, and carnivore as a health tool can be used for people who still have issues (mostly gut issue, autoimmune, etc)
The ecological devastation is coming from mono-cropping.
How is a cow eating grass, churning the soil, fertilizing the soil - destructive? This is how the soil was created in the first place.
Why are farmed fish and poultry ok but not ruminants? Ruminants have a super power - they can eat food humans can't eat, growing on land that can't raise human crops, and turn that into human usable fat and protein!
Not really, it's a highly processed food composed of many things, but a mega-dose of seed oil (which is very not good for health).
Why? People need to be health, meat is a super health food. People need to have a optimal metabolism, carbs and processed carbs and seed oils are antithetical to that. Healthy people eat less food, can eat local food that doesn't need to be shipped around the world, and don't need expensive chronic medical care.
Oh I agree, you absolutely can do plant based keto, and that is much better then SAD (standard australian diet). This entire conversation is a huge WHATABOUTISM - remember the post is about the health benefits of eating meat.
I think you will find the keto / zero carb communities extremely science based - self experiments, empirical validation, actually reading the literature.
Any change from the standard diet is a improvement. Our schism is over red meat .My understanding is I made a post about red meat being great, and we are talking about side things because in your estimate the world can't afford to provide meat for everyone. You have said some negative things about keto but haven't made your own dietary choices clear. Your advocating for a anti-red meat solution (which might include keto, you left the door open).
Please stop adding content after you sent a message, I didn't see your update -
You ABSOLUTELY will not develop type 2 diabetes eating zero carb.