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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Are also calling for the complete abolishing of the government of your country and thereby call for the destruction of the political system, when you don't like the government in office, or is it just something you do with the EU

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My country's government has been democratically elected. If it makes terrible decisions, the people have the choice of electing a different one. In theory at least.

The European Comission is not democratically elected, and regardless of how batshit insane its decisions are - we have no legal pathway of changing it.

The European Comission is not 'the political system' of the European Union. It's one part of it. A part that is undemocratic and needs reforms as soon as possible.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The EU commission is elected by the directly elected European Parliament based on suggestions by the Council/member states. The Commission can be voted out of office anytime when it loses support in the European Parliament.

The Austrian government is elected by Parliament based on suggestions by the Chancelor candidate (the latter chosen by the President). The parliament can vote the government out of office anytime.

According to you the one thing is utterly undemocratic while the other is not. ok.

The EU Commission is not the EU, but it is its executive and administration. I f you just kill that, you let everthing derail. Bureaucracy is a dirty word but there without it political entities implode.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't know why we're suddenly talking about Austria - a country I've never mentioned, because I've never been there and know little about it.

Judging solely based on your description, it does sound similar to the European Comission. I wouldn't say either is particularly democratic. Both seem quite similar to the Chinese democracy, which is rarely referred to as democracy at all in the West.

The EU commission is elected by the directly elected European Parliament based on suggestions by the Council/member states.

This is wrong. The European Parliament does not elect anybody. The president of the European Comission is chosen by the European Council, while the rest of the comissioners are chosen by the Council of the European Union.

The Parliament only gets to vote on the final result, as usual. Theoretically, it can vote against the proposed Comission, or put a motion of no confidence in the Comission. Both of these only have limited realistic use, because the Parliament still cannot put forward its own nominations.

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