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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 hours ago (16 children)

St. Patrick's Day? Cinco de Mayo?

I get it that the situation with Israel is different, because the Jewish diaspora ≠ Israeli diaspora, and the state of Israel has an undue and disproportionate influence over US politics due to AIPAC, lobbying, and dual citizens in Congress.

And that's all without even mentioning the unmitigated war crimes of the settler-colonial project that is modern Israel.

But let's not be ignorant. The US does celebrate other nations' and cultures' holidays, to an extent.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (18 children)

Neither of those are comparable if you look at the contents of the events...or how they started....or even just the names.

IDO5 isn't a celebration of Israeli culture. Its purpose is to celebrate the country/government. The theme of this parade is "Proud Americans, Proud Zionists"

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Pretty weird, right? It's not about something commemorative, it's literally a propaganda parade.

Imagine St. Patrick's Day parades where they push the idea that Ireland should conquer the British isles

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[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Cinco de mayo is purely a United Statesian holiday. Mexicans have no idea what it is. (I guess United Statesians dont either lol, but it is a US holiday.)

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fun history lesson, Cinco de Mayo was first celebrated in the Mexican communities of California. It celebrates the Mexican victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla in 1862. It was widely popularized by the Chicano movement in the 1950s.

Battle of Puebla Day was and sort of still is a holiday in Mexico, but it's not on any official observances list, but school children do get the day off nationwide, and there's reenactments and parades in Puebla. Widespread celebration fell off after the dictator who was fond of the holiday was deposed in 1911.

More fun history, the French won the Second Battle of Puebla a year later and then occupied Mexico City in their attempt to found a new Empire out of Mexico, because Napoleon the 3rd wanted one, but was way too incompetent to war with the rest of Europe. (He did some fighting in the Crimean War, but forgot to bring the artillery, the first Napoleon was an Artillery commander)

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 52 minutes ago

The same clown, Napoleon III, declared war against Prussia and got badly spanked. 1870 was a disaster for France.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

And St Patrick's Day is more of an America and Ireland thing. It's certainly not British.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I never said it was British. What the fuck?

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Op said British Day or Mexican Day parade and you responded with St Patrick's Day and Cinco de Mayo.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

OP also asked if there were any other country-focused parades out there. That's the part I was responding to.

Latching onto the wrong part of the comment to miscontextualize my response is a bad faith argument.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's not bad faith, you just made an unfortunate choice of example. It's ok you can just say that wasn't your intention and everyone moves on. Oops lol hehe etc.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What? There have been a couple users who responded with good faith arguments, and I engaged with them in good faith.

There were also some who didn't, and why would I waste my time trying with those?

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's good faith to notice you chose the same country for example A and two neighboring countries for example B, unless you're saying you chose the objectively two best possible examples or something.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

I wouldn't call it the objectively best, just the first two fitting examples that came to mind.

In fact, I'd phrase it more like this:

OP also asked if there were any other country-focused parades out there. That's the part I was responding to.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

So a response to your comment that was poorly phrased is a bad faith argument? Give me a break.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I learned about that (in detail) from a Youtube channel about booze, of all places. It was surprisingly interesting!

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Those are for a culture not geography

[–] SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's not my intent to make what amounts to an ignorant comment. My thought has always been that Cinco de Mayo and St Patrick Day celebrates cultures - not blatently stating that it's a "country" celebration.. The title of this parade, from an outsider looking in, doesn't seem to emphasize the culture, but rather the country.

Around my area, we have the Polish Day Parade. The point to celebrate the Polish culture. In this case, calling it an Isreal Day Parade seems to bring the country as the subject, not the culture and not the Jewish religion.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

No it’s true based on a comment above this appears to NOT commemorate any particular historical event but just a thing. https://zoa.org/events/parade/

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

That makes sense, and I agree. I even mentioned the differences in my comment.

I just feel like phrasing it a little better makes for more solid logic so that it's not as easy to refute or dismiss as is

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

But let’s not be ignorant.

I think its igorant to celebrate a country engaged in war crimes that our government simply fails to acknowledge. How many medical staff have they killed this week alone? But we are having a parade for them? Thats the ignorant thing here.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

I never said otherwise. If you just argue on it on those grounds instead of claiming the US doesn't celebrate any other foreign holiday then I think you'll have pretty solid logic.

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