So, when he said that economic integration had become a weakness he was lying? Sorry, but Carney supporters are constantly trying to have it both ways. Just like the man himself.

We either want deeper economic integration with a fascist neighbour that's building concentration camps and committing war crimes on a near daily basis, or we don't.

[–] Contrary@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Carney just spent a month on global trade deals to scare the US into coming to the table. You people are ridiculous, you simply cannot remove your largest trading partner overnight without a full societal collapse.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

This is a gross misrepresentation of what I said. The question is about whether we should be further integrating our economies.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not so complicated. We need economic partnerships with the U.S. and we also need economic partnerships with other countries.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The question is very simple. Do we want deeper integration with the US or not?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately yes we do. The proximity makes it economically required even considering the untrustworthiness. We desperately need more other integrations too so balance it.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OK so yes, you agree that Carney was lying?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't see the lie here. I'm sure he lies as he is a politician. But the statements about wanting to diversify but also increase our partnerships with the US aren't contradictory.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure that it will make a lick of difference in this conversation to point to Carney's own words, but here they are:

"You cannot "live within the lie" of mutual benefit through integration when integration becomes the source of your subordination."

Seems pretty clear what he was saying in Davos, and it's the complete opposite of what he's saying now. But whatever, right?