Fediverse

We have dedicated anti ai trolls who go and get banned from dozen of genai comms

This is skewed by the mods who just ban people from their dozens of AI slop communities for a couple downvotes for stuff that came through the All feed.

Average age of accounts being banned, grouped by instance:

SELECT
    i.domain AS instance,
    AVG(EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM (NOW() - u.created)) / (60*60*24)) AS avg_account_age_days
FROM mod_log ml
INNER JOIN "user" u ON ml.target_user_id = u.id
INNER JOIN instance i ON u.instance_id = i.id
WHERE ml.action = 'ban_user'
AND i.domain IN ('lemmy.ml', 'lemmy.dbzer0.com', 'lemmy.world', 'piefed.social',
        'lemmy.blahaj.zone', 'pawb.social', 'lemmy.ca', 'sh.itjust.works',
        'lemmy.zip', 'feddit.org', 'programming.dev', 'discuss.tchncs.de',
        'sopuli.xyz', 'lemmy.today', 'slrpnk.net', 'beehaw.org', 'jlai.lu')
GROUP BY i.domain
ORDER BY avg_account_age_days DESC;

lemmy.dbzer0.com is towards the young side but not really out of the ordinary. It's the instances like lemmy.today, lemmy.zip and piefed.social that are unusual.

We have dedicated anti ai trolls

What even is an "anti ai troll"? Is Big John Connor paying people to go to your instance and downvote AI posts? Or is it just a made up buzzword you use to legitimise banning people for downvoting stuff they don't like?

It's also at least partially explained by the fact we frequently take ban actions for reports of transphobia, or of zionism, for example. Whereas that only sometimes happens on the bigger instances who tend to draw their lines in different places, to put it delicately.

as devil's advocate i don't think account karma should be a factor. downvotes would only be an extension of how exclusionary the instance is. dbzer0's moderation is quite democratic, after all