I might be wrong about this about I suspect that not only did support for Israel hurt them, the whole "kamala is for they/them" thing might have done a lot of damage and its quite possible the storm revealing the latter would kick up might be the main thing they fear.
Sure centrist Karens like you kicked progressives in the face and ignored everything they wanted while calling them names, barely pretending to push back on the fasists, and committing war crimes, but progressives then just not showing up to beg for more of that is inexcusable! How dare they! They had better show up next time or you'll have some harsh words for them! and never forgive them!
/s
You know what pal, If Dem centrists cashing zionist paychecks refuse to learn from their mistakes, they can damn well watch the whole country not vote for them again, and the whole country continue to burn to the effing ground. I'm sick of their traitorous triangulating war criminal lite Dem plans. Do your effing job for once, centrists.
And yet somehow you're always arguing on the centrist side, but claim not to be a centrist. Weird how that works.
Heres a centrist comment of yours from this very same post. But you're not a centrist huh. Who am I to beleive: you or my own eyes?
13igTyme
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'The Truth Is Better Than Continuing to Lose': Petition Demands DNC Release Autopsy of 2024 Defeat
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Can you explain to me why some people like to both call those that voted for Kamala as being defeatist while at the same time refusing to vote for a candidate that is not 100% perfect but miles better than the opposition?
Do you need a history lesson? Quoting me when I'm stating a verified fact it's a gotcha. It just makes you look incredibly dumb. Go ahead and read more of my history. You clearly have nothing happening in your life.
Bro you picked a piefed instance, which only exists as a protest to the left-wing politics that created lemmy. It's like an admission that actual left-wing politics scare you so badly you'd rather take (someone else's toys) and go home and barely act sociable towards those who made the basis of your toys.
Yes the piefed project was created because some lemmy instances decided that those crazy marxists that invented and currently maintain lemmy were too extreme and 'unstable.'
This was around the time Bluesky brought a lot of liberal attention to both federation and the open source community, and along with that the audience who agreed with everything about reddit except the venture capitalists in charge of monetization joined lemmy, found out their 'We could've been at Brunch' level analysis is as left wing as a Hugo Boss coat, and quickly motivated the piefed team to hurry and develop and release their alternative.
As ridiculously pathetic as the lemmy.world admins are, and several of them are genocidal zionists, (some of them) at least stayed on the lemmy architecture. Piefed admins are even more right wing than that. Where the very notion of open source software makes them puke.
Gaza was razed to the ground on Joe Bidens watch.Using my tax money. And your girl Harris said she wouldnt change a thing from Joe Bidens policies. You like to pretend they are any different than Trump, they are not. Both Trump and Harris were 100% owned by the zionists. Thats exactly why she lost. She wasnt successful reaching out to the right for support either, was she? Talking about her glock and appearing on stage with a Cheney didnt work, did they?
And you lot refuse to learn a single thing from that giant loss and the chaos and murder its caused. So you'll do it again. Its absurdly pathetic.
They guy quoted in the article was the "Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Adviser for Energy and Investment", he was also part of the IDF. So he's not part of the chain of command, nor advising the military, and he has a motive to try to sell this war to the American people.
If this article was written before 2024, I might give it some more weight, but a former IDF soldier saying "Nah, Biden was totally going to attack Iran, and Kamala was too, so it's cool that trump does it." a few days ago does not really carry a lot of weight with me.
Also I'd be surprised if we didn't have attack plans and drills for a possible conflict with Iran... or China, or Russia, or really anyone. What do you think the military is doing with 883,000,000,000 dollars a year? The fact that those plans exist is not an intent to use them. It would look really fucking dumb if Iran attacked an ally (or the US directly) and the US was like "damn, we never really thought about this as a possibility."
Why Biden has an idf terrorist as a top official ? You think he would put someone in this position that he don't trust and know that he lies. The amount of denialism from cultists like you is mind-blowing. It is a fact that the USA and Israel did military exercises to prepare for attacking Iran
Juniper Oak was defined as a “Joint All-Domain Exercise” encompassing land, air, sea, space, and cyber operations; as some have noted, this combination of all five dimensions of (post-) modern warfare is not easily achieved, let alone between two very different military establishments and professional cultures. The US forces participating—4,600 troops in all—comprised an aircraft carrier, the George H.W. Bush, and its task force, and other naval assets; some 140 aircraft, including B-52 strategic bombers, fighter aircraft, helicopters, and refueling tankers, in addition to those designated for future delivery to the Israeli Air Force; Army units, including HIMARS and MLRS rocket launchers, infantry, and special forces. No details were given as to the space and cyber components, but both countries have significant military assets in both domains (which can play a role, for example, in the non-kinetic suppression of enemy air defense).
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And probably not (if you read what they said).
But like I said, if you're happy with all Trump's policies and the way he governs then you'll be happy you didn't vote for Harris. That's ok. It's a democracy - you can be a Trump supporter if you want to be.
I like how you act like trump cultists using the same type of lame excuses. Similar to how some cultists claimed that by the end of civilization Trump meant and of the regime.
The biggest usa/israel military exercice ained at Iran was during Biden.
Sure centrist Karens like you kicked progressives in the face and ignored everything they wanted while calling them names, barely pretending to push back on the fasists, and committing war crimes, but progressives then just not showing up to beg for more of that is inexcusable! How dare they! They had better show up next time or you'll have some harsh words for them! and never forgive them!
/s
You know what pal, If Dem centrists cashing zionist paychecks refuse to learn from their mistakes, they can damn well watch the whole country not vote for them again, and the whole country continue to burn to the effing ground. I'm sick of their traitorous triangulating war criminal lite Dem plans. Do your effing job for once, centrists.
You calling me a centrist is more laughable than that bullshit comment you just spewed.
And yet somehow you're always arguing on the centrist side, but claim not to be a centrist. Weird how that works.
Heres a centrist comment of yours from this very same post. But you're not a centrist huh. Who am I to beleive: you or my own eyes?
13igTyme @piefed.social to stupidpol@sh.itjust.works • 'The Truth Is Better Than Continuing to Lose': Petition Demands DNC Release Autopsy of 2024 Defeat
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Can you explain to me why some people like to both call those that voted for Kamala as being defeatist while at the same time refusing to vote for a candidate that is not 100% perfect but miles better than the opposition?
Genuinely curious.
That's not a centrist statement. God damn you are fucking stupid.
This is also you.
13igTyme @piefed.social to Lefty Memes@lemmy.dbzer0.com • The war must go on
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Fyi the Israel vs Palestine thing has been back and forth for decades.
Do you need a history lesson? Quoting me when I'm stating a verified fact it's a gotcha. It just makes you look incredibly dumb. Go ahead and read more of my history. You clearly have nothing happening in your life.
Pathetic.
Bro you picked a piefed instance, which only exists as a protest to the left-wing politics that created lemmy. It's like an admission that actual left-wing politics scare you so badly you'd rather take (someone else's toys) and go home and barely act sociable towards those who made the basis of your toys.
lmfao seriously?
Yes the piefed project was created because some lemmy instances decided that those crazy marxists that invented and currently maintain lemmy were too extreme and 'unstable.'
This was around the time Bluesky brought a lot of liberal attention to both federation and the open source community, and along with that the audience who agreed with everything about reddit except the venture capitalists in charge of monetization joined lemmy, found out their 'We could've been at Brunch' level analysis is as left wing as a Hugo Boss coat, and quickly motivated the piefed team to hurry and develop and release their alternative.
As ridiculously pathetic as the lemmy.world admins are, and several of them are genocidal zionists, (some of them) at least stayed on the lemmy architecture. Piefed admins are even more right wing than that. Where the very notion of open source software makes them puke.
Not a single lemmy instance was involved in the development of Piefed.
And no-one in piefed objects to open-source software.
I guess if your happy with trump's policies and all the destruction in the ME then you can be happy you didn't vote for harris.
Gaza was razed to the ground on Joe Bidens watch. Using my tax money. And your girl Harris said she wouldnt change a thing from Joe Bidens policies. You like to pretend they are any different than Trump, they are not. Both Trump and Harris were 100% owned by the zionists. Thats exactly why she lost. She wasnt successful reaching out to the right for support either, was she? Talking about her glock and appearing on stage with a Cheney didnt work, did they?
And you lot refuse to learn a single thing from that giant loss and the chaos and murder its caused. So you'll do it again. Its absurdly pathetic.
https://truthout.org/articles/top-biden-official-supports-trump-iran-attack-says-biden-may-have-done-the-same/
They guy quoted in the article was the "Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Adviser for Energy and Investment", he was also part of the IDF. So he's not part of the chain of command, nor advising the military, and he has a motive to try to sell this war to the American people.
If this article was written before 2024, I might give it some more weight, but a former IDF soldier saying "Nah, Biden was totally going to attack Iran, and Kamala was too, so it's cool that trump does it." a few days ago does not really carry a lot of weight with me.
Also I'd be surprised if we didn't have attack plans and drills for a possible conflict with Iran... or China, or Russia, or really anyone. What do you think the military is doing with 883,000,000,000 dollars a year? The fact that those plans exist is not an intent to use them. It would look really fucking dumb if Iran attacked an ally (or the US directly) and the US was like "damn, we never really thought about this as a possibility."
Why Biden has an idf terrorist as a top official ? You think he would put someone in this position that he don't trust and know that he lies. The amount of denialism from cultists like you is mind-blowing. It is a fact that the USA and Israel did military exercises to prepare for attacking Iran
https://www.jstribune.com/lerman-the-largest-ever-us-israel-military-exercise/
* may *
And probably not (if you read what they said).
But like I said, if you're happy with all Trump's policies and the way he governs then you'll be happy you didn't vote for Harris. That's ok. It's a democracy - you can be a Trump supporter if you want to be.
I like how you act like trump cultists using the same type of lame excuses. Similar to how some cultists claimed that by the end of civilization Trump meant and of the regime.
The biggest usa/israel military exercice ained at Iran was during Biden.