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Vance calls end of Ukraine aid 'one of the proudest' achievements of Trump administration
(kyivindependent.com)
this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2026
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I really hope the citizens eventually realize that we don't have a two party system. We have a 1 party system, with some of their party cosplaying as the opposition.
#bothSides? Whither nuance?
Where's the nuance? Well, one side is secular, the other is Jesus flavored.
bOTh are anti-union, pro-billionaire, and anti-democracy, bOtH REFUSE to listen to even their own constituents, let alone independents, and BoTh are for sale regardless of their own proclaimed platforms.
Ds are now anti-labor (starting in the 90s with NAFTA), some workers in EASTERN EUROPE have better benefits and pay (it's a little less than USAs minimum, but worth more). Check out the minimum benefits in Poland. We have been surpassed by Poland, even though we are fantastically wealthy in comparison. Let that sink in. That's how anti-labor they BoTh are.
Rs are now openly anti-states' rights, using federal law and budgets to force States to comply; since the 2000s they have increased government size and power without regard for anything that they once stood for.
... and so on. Are they clones? No. But bOtH are for sale and BoTh ignore their own party members to do what they are paid to do by often (but not always) competing billionaire interests. They aren't even pro-USA, they are internationalist mercenaries.
#obvious
It's the difference between blowing ones foot off versus getting stabbed through the arm. One is far more life threatening and will hobble you for life, the other requires some triage and will feel itchy for years to come. Both are shit but one is still noticeable worse.
I'm just repeating you in pain terms for TLDR reasons.