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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

At the time of the plague, the Catholic church dominated every state politically; they were the undisputed masters of Europe.

After the plague, they never recovered the same amount of control again. This was the start of a long decline that continues to this day. The plague revealed how truly ineffectual and predatory the church was, even to the most ignorant.

Recommend the books The Black Death and The Dancing Plague, I'm over simplifying of course there are many other details.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So what youre saying is it was gods will for the church to decline and it was done via the plague which must have come from God if everything is part of God's plan, which means God wanted fewer followers and eventually have none?

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago
[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Which black death book? There are many and I'd like to learn.

I'm assuming dancing plague is John Waller?

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

My memory fails me, here's what I have found on my bookshelf from the last few years

The Great Mortality: An Intimate History of the Black Death, the Most Devastating Plague of All Time by Kelly

The Dancing Plague: The Strange, True Story of an Extraordinary Illness by Waller

The Black Death 1346-1353: The Complete History by Benedictow

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

that continues to this day.

The US disagrees as do some theocratic states like Iran (nit-pick but i said catholic all you want, they all look the same to me).

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

THE GOOD NEWS The last time I looked, they're all shrinking in membership.

Also, remember, they have always lied about their predominance, and they always will. Abrahamics have no relationship with the truth, don't ever listen to them and their claims, believe nothing without solid evidence from another source.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

Do not mistake the bullshit narrative of the oligarchs with actual human beings. Religion is dying everywhere amongst actual human beings.