while I sorta doubt you did the "math on the physics"

As I said, look through my comment history.

.30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware.

Oh my god, I made a formatting typo, therefore I am wrong.

but stating, factually, that there is "zero chance" of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible.

Not it isn't, because I am correct, about a 30 awktua 06, from the range it was fired from, impacting Kirk at the angle it did.

You must I guess not be aware or how the intial reports from before the autopsy was fully done/released were that Charlie Kirk must have just had literally superhuman bone strength.

https://www.totalprosports.com/general/surgeon-makes-miracle-claim-after-operating-on-charlie-kirk-everyone-doubts/

Kolvet claimed a doctor told him Kirk’s “incredibly dense bone” stopped a high-powered round that entered his neck during the September 10 shooting at Utah Valley University.

“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed. It should have gone through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,” Kolvet quoted the surgeon as saying. Instead, the bullet lodged beneath the skin. He added that Kirk’s body prevented it from striking people standing behind him.

“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him,” Kolvet wrote.

This is, as we say, fucking obvious horseshit.

You of course don't know about this, because you have not done any research into the actual Kirk assassination whatsoever.

There are many, many more things that involved people said, elements of the supposed story of how Kirk got got... that do line up, that do not make sense, that are inconsistent.

I'm not confident enough to say 'Israel killed Kirk' because I have not yet seen conclusive evidence of that.

But I am confident enough to say that the official FBI story is full of obvious holes, say what I said about the 30000000.6, that this all stinks to high heaven.

there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.

You could go look through my comment history to see doing that, or, you can just assume I didn't.

I've designed entire realistic ballistic physics models for games and mods, I've shot firearms, I'm one of the 'realism purists' when it comes to tactical shooters, I taught myself coding and vector algebra as a teenager literally to solve this 'problem' that I thought most games of the time were being too 'lazy' about.

I've made ballistic models that will figure out likely penetration/ricochet/splatter apart impact angles, when a bullet of various speeds and itself being made of different materials, in different configurations (FMJ, HP, etc), impacts against different materials, which are themselves layered volumetrically.

You don't need anywhere near that level of real world physical fidelity to be able to confidently state what I stated. Its rather trivial.

Sorry I should have clarified that I meant that at the range of the Kirk shot, roughly 150 yards, a 30.06 has approximately an order or magnitude more kinetic emergy than a 5.56.

Roughly 900 ft-lbs vs roughly 2150 ft-lbs.

Thats another 0, aka, another order of magnitude.

And I stand by a 30.06 at 500 yards having enough KE to shatter a Moose femur.

Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer?

Correct.

I think he was/is a patsy.

I think he did take a weapon, on that day, to the spot he was at... but he cannot have fired the shot that hit Kirk, from that location, with a 30.06.

Also... there is inconsistency about the entire timeline of where he was when, what he did with the weapon, and even what weapon we are even talking about.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Trp2oAltsj0

Did he... dissassemble it, and then reassemble it, and then go to the location, and then disassemble it, run and jump off the roof, and then reassemble it, and then hide it?

That doesn't make sense.

The FBI said that he wrapped up the gun in a towel or blanket, and hid it and planned to retrieve it later.

But ... the picture of the supposed recovered firearm ... is not wrapped in anything, its ... in a cardboard box.

The optic is mounted so poorly that it would probably be an overall detriment to making the shot it supposedly made.

So did he... hastily reassemble a weapon he intended to hide, poorly, for some reason?

And did he wrap it up, or put it in a box?

Theres also a ... lot of doubt that the correspondence between the shooter/patsy and his 'boyfriend', from the day itself is actually real, it uses highly unrealistic language.

You've got the weird older crazy guy who loudly announced he was the shooter, but... he wasn't.

But he also said the point of him doing that was to allow the actual shooter to escape.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20e1jx0p5jo

A 71-year-old man who was briefly detained moments after the assassination of Charlie Kirk tried to help the suspected gunman escape by faking a confession, authorities say.

Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith said George Zinn admitted to police that he had "yelled that he was the shooter to allow the actual suspect to flee".

...

Mr Zinn "intentionally yelled he was the shooter and by doing so, obstructed Law Enforcement from focusing on the actual shooter", the sheriff said in a statement.

Court documents filed by campus police allege that Mr Zinn began shouting: "I shot him - now shoot me."

...

Mr Zinn is well known among organisers of public events in Salt Lake City, the New York Times reported. "He showed up frequently to public forums with the intention to disrupt the event or question a high-profile speaker," it said.

He also has a long history of minor crimes, including an arrest in 2013 for sending a threatening email to the hosts of the Salt Lake City Marathon just days after the Boston Marathon bombing, the newspaper wrote.

I mean, I can't prove this, but if there ever was a plant, a paid agitator, a 'crisis actor'... this is what it would look like.

I think the kid genuinely did plan and intend to kill Kirk... and that other people knew about this, and essentially shadowed him.

Palantir? Discord?

Oh, yeah, turns out all that shit's monitored and catalogued in real time.

So, shadow the kid with a crew.

If the kid was gonna do it, great, he did it, mission accomplished.

If not, well, shooter 2 will pull the trigger if patsy wusses out, and then patsy takes the blame.

And I think scenario 2 is what happened there.

Who all, specifically, is involved in scenario 2?

Well, I don't know all the exact names, but Kash Patel is one of them, you know, Captain Coverup, some of the others would have to be close to Kirk.

All of this, this is all speculation.

As I said, I know what a gun can and can't do, the rest of this is a fucking mess.