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[–] brian@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

while I sorta doubt you did the "math on the physics", my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware.

but stating, factually, that there is "zero chance" of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

while I sorta doubt you did the "math on the physics"

As I said, look through my comment history.

.30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware.

Oh my god, I made a formatting typo, therefore I am wrong.

but stating, factually, that there is "zero chance" of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible.

Not it isn't, because I am correct, about a 30 awktua 06, from the range it was fired from, impacting Kirk at the angle it did.

You must I guess not be aware or how the intial reports from before the autopsy was fully done/released were that Charlie Kirk must have just had literally superhuman bone strength.

https://www.totalprosports.com/general/surgeon-makes-miracle-claim-after-operating-on-charlie-kirk-everyone-doubts/

Kolvet claimed a doctor told him Kirk’s “incredibly dense bone” stopped a high-powered round that entered his neck during the September 10 shooting at Utah Valley University.

“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed. It should have gone through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,” Kolvet quoted the surgeon as saying. Instead, the bullet lodged beneath the skin. He added that Kirk’s body prevented it from striking people standing behind him.

“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him,” Kolvet wrote.

This is, as we say, fucking obvious horseshit.

You of course don't know about this, because you have not done any research into the actual Kirk assassination whatsoever.

There are many, many more things that involved people said, elements of the supposed story of how Kirk got got... that do line up, that do not make sense, that are inconsistent.

I'm not confident enough to say 'Israel killed Kirk' because I have not yet seen conclusive evidence of that.

But I am confident enough to say that the official FBI story is full of obvious holes, say what I said about the 30000000.6, that this all stinks to high heaven.

there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.

You could go look through my comment history to see doing that, or, you can just assume I didn't.

I've designed entire realistic ballistic physics models for games and mods, I've shot firearms, I'm one of the 'realism purists' when it comes to tactical shooters, I taught myself coding and vector algebra as a teenager literally to solve this 'problem' that I thought most games of the time were being too 'lazy' about.

I've made ballistic models that will figure out likely penetration/ricochet/splatter apart impact angles, when a bullet of various speeds and itself being made of different materials, in different configurations (FMJ, HP, etc), impacts against different materials, which are themselves layered volumetrically.

You don't need anywhere near that level of real world physical fidelity to be able to confidently state what I stated. Its rather trivial.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago

A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose… there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.

I mean...not to be THAT GUY but this line alone is pretty off. Depends on may factors like any other round, but 5.56 has 1/2-2/3 the energy of a 30-06 round at about 200yd. Ballistic data is pretty easy to come by. Saying that you've programmed some stuff for a few games and simulated models doesn't mean anything at all when your scientific measurement is an imaginary moose femur at 500yds.

Anyway...they have a shooter and his rifle, so I don't even know why we're still discussing caliber.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I've designed entire realistic ballistic physics models for games and mods,

That's so cool. Which ones?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Games that I am working on in my spare time, haven't finished yet due to spending the last 2 years recovering from becoming homeless amd becoming greivously injured.

Mods for Garrys Mod that don't exist as I originally made them anymore, because Garry deleted the entire FacePunch forums...

But, if you play with any reasonably advanced SWEP bases... pretty good chance they're based off of the bones of what I made 20 years ago.

You're of course free to not believe any of that, but you could also maybe try an actually go through and check the math that I've already done.

Its not that hard for a non crippled person to search through a user's comments.

It is on the other hand quite painful for a crippled person who has been doing nothing other than Physical Therapy for the last year as a full time occupation to keep trifling with MachismoGrande.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Your sources are trust me bro, a shifty sounding website, and your own comments you cannot be bothered to link to. If anything you are saying is true, you're convincing people it's not by how you're reacting here.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I skimmed your comment history and don't see any math there. If you're going to make such claims, show your work.

[–] TheOctonaut@piefed.zip 0 points 16 hours ago

Holy shit it's one of those guys, the "I did my research" guys. I never get to see them these days. Amazing. Imagine this energy used for something like painting miniatures instead