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[โ€“] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, we can distrust both. I'm not clear on what you think happened. Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer? In any case what is the motivation for lying about the weapon used..?

[โ€“] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do you not think the person arrested for this is the killer?

Correct.

I think he was/is a patsy.

I think he did take a weapon, on that day, to the spot he was at... but he cannot have fired the shot that hit Kirk, from that location, with a 30.06.


Also... there is inconsistency about the entire timeline of where he was when, what he did with the weapon, and even what weapon we are even talking about.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Trp2oAltsj0

Did he... dissassemble it, and then reassemble it, and then go to the location, and then disassemble it, run and jump off the roof, and then reassemble it, and then hide it?

That doesn't make sense.

The FBI said that he wrapped up the gun in a towel or blanket, and hid it and planned to retrieve it later.

But ... the picture of the supposed recovered firearm ... is not wrapped in anything, its ... in a cardboard box.

The optic is mounted so poorly that it would probably be an overall detriment to making the shot it supposedly made.

So did he... hastily reassemble a weapon he intended to hide, poorly, for some reason?

And did he wrap it up, or put it in a box?


Theres also a ... lot of doubt that the correspondence between the shooter/patsy and his 'boyfriend', from the day itself is actually real, it uses highly unrealistic language.

You've got the weird older crazy guy who loudly announced he was the shooter, but... he wasn't.

But he also said the point of him doing that was to allow the actual shooter to escape.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20e1jx0p5jo

A 71-year-old man who was briefly detained moments after the assassination of Charlie Kirk tried to help the suspected gunman escape by faking a confession, authorities say.

Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith said George Zinn admitted to police that he had "yelled that he was the shooter to allow the actual suspect to flee".

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Mr Zinn "intentionally yelled he was the shooter and by doing so, obstructed Law Enforcement from focusing on the actual shooter", the sheriff said in a statement.

Court documents filed by campus police allege that Mr Zinn began shouting: "I shot him - now shoot me."

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Mr Zinn is well known among organisers of public events in Salt Lake City, the New York Times reported. "He showed up frequently to public forums with the intention to disrupt the event or question a high-profile speaker," it said.

He also has a long history of minor crimes, including an arrest in 2013 for sending a threatening email to the hosts of the Salt Lake City Marathon just days after the Boston Marathon bombing, the newspaper wrote.

I mean, I can't prove this, but if there ever was a plant, a paid agitator, a 'crisis actor'... this is what it would look like.


I think the kid genuinely did plan and intend to kill Kirk... and that other people knew about this, and essentially shadowed him.

Palantir? Discord?

Oh, yeah, turns out all that shit's monitored and catalogued in real time.

So, shadow the kid with a crew.

If the kid was gonna do it, great, he did it, mission accomplished.

If not, well, shooter 2 will pull the trigger if patsy wusses out, and then patsy takes the blame.

And I think scenario 2 is what happened there.

Who all, specifically, is involved in scenario 2?

Well, I don't know all the exact names, but Kash Patel is one of them, you know, Captain Coverup, some of the others would have to be close to Kirk.


All of this, this is all speculation.

As I said, I know what a gun can and can't do, the rest of this is a fucking mess.

[โ€“] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Wait so he's a patsy

But he also killed him

They just went the extra mile to change the rifle (and angle)?

[โ€“] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah i am not going to entertain a stupid grassy knoll theory about Chucky kirk, of all people.

[โ€“] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel like that's a little intellectually dishonest to not even consider a theory that opposes the story of the most corrupt and dishonest administration in modern American history. One that has been extremely willing to cover up and lie about Americans who were executed by ICE on video. Especially, when there is in fact so much that is weird and wrong about the official story and the major impact hat it would have to the public to know that Israel can literally murder Americans and the government will sweep it under the rug. I'm not asking you to believe it, I'm asking you to consider the possibility fairly.

[โ€“] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I hear you. While being dismissive, i didn't mean it in a negative way. If that makes sense.

I just don't see how it would matter, really. If Miller and the Gang killed him so what. If they didn't kill him but they tried some wack cover up for who knows what reason... i didn't think it matters either. It's just another incompetent act.

[โ€“] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I get that. Personally, I find it important to know exactly what crimes are being committed against the American people either by a foreign power or by our own government. I can't blame you for feeling apathetic about it though.

[โ€“] TachyonTele@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago

I respect your energy. We need that.