[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let's disarm the police
[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
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Cops kill people directly, doctors usually don't. That's the difference. My comparison between cops and mass shooters was about how many people they kill directly. Doctors don't usually murder people.
So intent is the main thing, for you? One malicious murder is worse than a hundred negligent manslaughters?
Is there not more intent to murder involved in a mass shooter than a cop shooting someone trying to shoot the cop? Or are you one of those people who thinks that cops only sign up to be cops because they'll have a better chance to kill people, and every single death-by-cop is murder, even in self-defense?
Cops have a less dangerous job than pizza delivery. Yes, per capita. And COVID or a cop’s own bad driving is more likely to kill them than someone with a gun.
If you wouldn’t accept a pizza delivery kid blowing someone away because they reached into their pocket, you shouldn’t accept it from a cop.
Depending on your definition of "less dangerous," yeah. Doesn't really refute my argument, though. Did you want to divert the discussion with that Red Herring because you realized you were wrong or did you just want to talk about something else today and didn't realize that's outside the scope of this discussion?
Straw-man.
I’m not aware of any definition of “less dangerous” that involves the more dangerous job having less deaths and injuries than the less dangerous job.
Want to slow your roll and figure out if you’re talking to the same person before going off?
Not at all. If your argument is that cops should get to have guns and shoot people because their job is dangerous, so should pizza delivery drivers, who are more likely to get assaulted than cops.
I personally think "likelihood of being attacked" and "ability to defend themselves" should also be included in the definition we're working with. Like if Person A is attacked 5 times a day and defends against them without injury 4/5 times, but Person B is attacked 3 times a day and is not trained or equipped to defend themselves so they're hurt 3 times a day, which person is in the more "dangerous" position?
Fair enough, I didn't (and routinely don't) check usernames before responding. Sounds exhausting. Pedantry accepted though; feel free to redact the part of that comment that involves my asking if you realized you were wrong and replace it with something about you realizing they were wrong. Better? You ready to respond to my pointing out that you're doing a Red Herring now, or is there some other pedantic thing you want to focus on to distract from the broad strokes of you screwing up?
Yep, I also believe delivery drivers should be allowed to carry a gun. Same with taxi cab drivers and other people who are more likely to be (successfully) attacked and hurt or killed than cops are.
See how using a straw-man argument can make for an awkward situation where you fleshing out your attack into a(n implied) question about their real position can make you look like a fool?