Framework Laptop Community

So... who's excited to finally get detailed specs and pre-order start?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejl-7X74tgc

#openSUSE + @framework Laptop? Yes, please! Discover #community-led efforts to enhance compatibility, overcome integration hurdles & deliver seamless UX.🎥 German-language talk includes a hands-on demo! https://media.ccc.de/v/clt25-163-making-opensuse-ready-for-framework-laptops

Just want to add to the chorus, framework is awesome. This thing is so sleek and fancy.

There were a couple of hiccups with the DIY build. An out of position Wi-Fi wire on the hinge, and I wasn't told to plug it in before turning it on, so I thought I had a dud for a minute or two. But that's no big deal.

It was the deal that got me, I went with a 7840u, with the 2.8k screen. I bought my own ram, and reused a 2230 512gb nvme from when I upgraded my steam deck. That'll hold me over until I decide I need more 🤷‍♂️

It's only been a few days but so far I couldn't be happier!

Gotta stop myself from fidgeting with the bezel magnets, it's fun but I'm gonna break it 😬

Edit: Forgot to mention I'm running Bluefin, based on recommendations here. My first time with Fedora, and immutable/atomic based distros. I'm used to Debian based stuff. So far I haven't run into too much trouble. Though I AM struggling with my virtual machine.

I have three apps that I need Windows for still, there is no replacement. One of them might run in proton, but it's updated regularly, and interfaces with a shared database, and I'm just not willing to be the fly in the ointment if my setup breaks something for everyone.

The other is a Windows store exclusive, and that doesn't work with proton.

And the third I could find an alternative for, I just... It will be a lot of work converting the database over, and I don't want to right now 🤷‍♂️

Anywho the problem is the VM, Boxes, won't run in full resolution. It's locked at a lower resolution. Seems like a crazy problem, a feature that should already be baked in. I've tried SPICE virt-viewer, per some guides, but no dice.

I've got a thread up here about it if anyone has an idea? I know there's at least a few bluefin users here.

Thanks!

I'm looking into a new laptop and really like what I see from framework. One point I'm concerned about is buying into a repairable system but being wholly reliant on a small relatively new player to continue providing specially modularized parts (e.g. the USB modules). Is this concern valid or is there something I'm overlooking?

Side question: has anyone had luck with PopOS on a framework?

Just wanted to share my experiences with Wi-Fi 7 on my Framework 13 and 16. Attached is a picture of a rebranded QCNCM865 card I bought on Ebay. I've tried this and one from MSI on both the Framework 13 AMD and Framework 16.

On Linux this chip works out-of-the-box if the distro uses a newer version of the kernel. It "worked" on Linux 6.12, but dropped connection often under usage. The card works perfectly fine with no issues on Linux 6.13. I've tested both Fedora and NixOS with the Wi-Fi card.

Windows doesn't support the card by default. I had to install Windows on a wired connection and install this MSI driver. The card works perfectly fine on Windows with no issues.

This card is an even better choice than the default Mediatek card for Wi-Fi 6E.

Thought it was interesting to see them chime in on Mastodon. Apparently the socket standard can't keep up with what hardware is capable of

Maybe we can see an improved socket in the future? Maybe sockets more like a cpu or something?

Does anyone know where to find one of those plastic keyboard covers for a Framework? My web searches have come up empty.

#framework @frameworkcomputer @framework

We’ve been hinting that this year is going to be huge, and we’re ready to share why… in two weeks on Feb 25th, at our Framework (2nd Gen) Event! We’re holding this launch event live in San Francisco and streaming to our YouTube channel at 10:30am Pacific that day. You can sign up now to get notified when the stream starts. The last time we held a live launch event was in March 2023, when we unveiled Framework Laptop 16 and two new versions of Framework Laptop 13. It’s been amazing seeing the interest in these products and the incredible ways the community has been using and extending on them. We’ve been heads down working for the last two years on an even bigger set of announcements.

For this event, in addition to bringing in press and partners, we’re opening a pool of invites to the Framework Community to attend the event in person, meet the team, and get hands on with our newest products. If you’re a current Framework fan and are in the San Francisco area (or are able to handle your own travel to us), you can apply to attend in this sign-up form. We expect we’ll see a lot more interest than we have available seats in our venue, so we’ll likely need to downselect from applicants.

We will be opening pre-orders on at least one new item that day, so if you’re in the market for repairable, upgradeable, long-lasting consumer electronics products, you may want to create an account ahead of time to be ready. We’ve scaled up our e-commerce infrastructure massively, but we expect the site will still be under heavy load.

Five years in, we’re confident that we’re on a fast path to achieving our mission to remake consumer electronics. We’re eager to continue supporting and scaling the ecosystems around our current products, and we’re ready to bring this mission and product philosophy to even more of the world, one category at a time. It’s going to be an awesome day, and all of us in the Framework team can’t wait for you to see what we’ve been working on!

For a hint at what we'll be announcing, head to the event page.

I can't make much sense from their hint, but I'm guessing this is related to when Nirav asked the community what category they should branch out to next, after laptops. I'll see if I can find the post again and link it here.

What are your guesses? In any case, this is a very exciting announcement!

Edit: framework community discussion here.

I'm configuring a Framework 13, and while selecting the ports, I came across a question that I couldn't determine from the pictures, product pages, or configurator:

Is there a dedicated USB-C port for docking and charging? That is, to say, if I don't choose USB-C for at least one of the expansion ports, will I still be able to plug it in to a USB-C dock? If not, how will I charge the laptop? Is there a dedicated charging port?

Dear Framework enthusiasts,

After several days of intense development exclusively for my Patreon supporters, I'm thrilled to announce the release of Framework Hub in C#! This complete rewrite brings enhanced performance, stability, and a beautiful modern interface to help you get the most out of your Framework laptop.

✨ What's New?

The C# version has been rebuilt from the ground up with:

• A sleek, modern UI using Avalonia framework

• Enhanced performance and reliability

• Full Windows 11 integration

• Professional installer with automatic driver setup

• Improved AMD CPU management

• Show/hide window with F12

r/framework - [W11]🎉 Framework Hub: The Ultimate Framework Laptop Control Center - Now in C#! 🎉 🛠️ Key Features:

Advanced Power Management

• Fine-tuned AMD Ryzen processor control

• Custom power profiles for different use cases

• Real-time monitoring of CPU parameters

• Temperature and power limit adjustments

r/framework - [W11]🎉 Framework Hub: The Ultimate Framework Laptop Control Center - Now in C#! 🎉 2. Windows Package Manager Integration

• Seamless updates for your applications

• Direct access to Intel, AMD, and Framework drivers

• One-click updates for system components

• Integrated CTT Winutils for system optimization

r/framework - [W11]🎉 Framework Hub: The Ultimate Framework Laptop Control Center - Now in C#! 🎉 3. Hardware Monitoring

• Real-time system statistics

• Temperature monitoring

• Power consumption tracking

• Performance metrics

r/framework - [W11]🎉 Framework Hub: The Ultimate Framework Laptop Control Center - Now in C#! 🎉 4. User Interface

• Modern Fluent Design

• Dark mode support

• Smooth animations

• Intuitive controls

• High DPI support

🔒 Exclusive Benefits for Patreon Supporters:

• Immediate access to the full installer

• Priority support

• Early access to new features

• Direct input on future development

A debug version will be available later on GitHub, but Patreon supporters get immediate access to the complete, polished experience.

💡 Coming Soon:

• Intel support ! Thanks to Nirav Patel

• Enhanced monitoring capabilities

• More battery optimization features

• And more based on your feedback!

🙏 Thank You!

Your support makes this development possible. By being a Patreon supporter, you're not just getting early access - you're helping shape the future of Framework laptop utilities.

Download Instructions:

Just landed on this article by Phoronix on an AI accelerator in an m.2 drive format.

This one is from memryX and seems to be rather mature and capable though mostly low power.

I can't stop thinking that this may be a great usecase for the new expansion bay for the Framework laptop 16, with it's two additional full size m.2 slots. Would be very interesting to see whether two of these could be combined and used jointly and how much acceleration it provides compared to the AMD CPU alone.

Anyway, just sharing because I thought it was cool.

Today we’re launching the first new module for the Expansion Bay system in Framework Laptop 16: the Dual M.2 Adapter, enabling you to add additional storage drives or other high speed devices. When we first announced Framework Laptop 16, we shared that one of the core design goals was unlocking desktop-like modularity within a slim notebook form factor with high performance PCIe-interfaced modules. Our first modules were the Graphics Module with an AMD Radeon 7700S discrete GPU and the Expansion Bay Shell which provides cooling along with an open central area for modules to drop into. The new Dual M.2 Adapter is the first module that installs into the Expansion Bay Shell. You can pick it up today in the Framework Marketplace along with the Graphics Module Interposer that it uses to connect to the Mainboard; just remember to update your Framework Laptop 16 to the latest BIOS first for compatibility.

The Dual M.2 Adapter supports two M.2 M-key devices in 2230, 2242, 2260, and 2280 sizes with full 4-lane PCIe 4.0 throughput to each. We expect the most popular use case for this will be cramming in massive amounts of additional NVMe storage. With 8TB SSDs now available, that means you can add 16TB to your Framework Laptop 16, in addition to the two internal M.2 drive slots! There are plenty of other use cases possible too for M.2 modules. We’ve tested out M.2 AI accelerators and we expect that at least one of you is going to try hooking up a desktop GPU through an M.2 to PCIe slot adapter. We’re looking forward to seeing what else you can come up with. We’ve also posted a video overview of the new module. If you want to go deeper, you can check out open source schematics and reference CAD for the Expansion Bay system to start creating your own modules.

One more update on Framework Laptop 16: in new production, we’ve recently switched our thermal interface solution for the CPU from liquid metal over to Honeywell PTM7958, which is an optimized paste version of the popular PTM7950 phase change pad. While we saw excellent initial performance with liquid metal, we have seen some instances in the field of performance degradation over time. In our testing, we see equivalently strong initial performance with PTM7958 along with excellent long-term stable performance reliability. If you are a current Framework Laptop 16 customer, you can submit a request for a phase change pad through this form.

On a totally separate topic, our goal is always to minimize waste and maximize re-use of electronics parts and products wherever we can. That includes designing for re-use, publishing documentation and reference designs, and refurbishing any products that come back to us. Over years of operating our service centers, we’ve accumulated large quantities of parts that for one reason or another aren’t efficient to refurbish and create listings for in the Framework Marketplace. Instead of scrapping this, we’re going to try something new. We’ve introduced Mystery Boxes in the Framework Outlet in US and Canada containing a random assortment of returned parts and modules. We can’t guarantee any kind of functionality of these items, so we’ve priced them ultra low for DIYers and tinkerers to play with. Every box contains at least three items. Note that these don’t come with a warranty and are non-returnable, so only get it if you want random scrap to play with!

We have a few other updates to share too.

• To go with your overkill configuration storage, you can now pick up 48GB Framework-branded DDR5 modules, enabling up to 96GB of memory!
• Since starting Framework, we’ve regularly gotten requests for more branded merch. We’ve recently restocked Framework Hats and added tote bags, both made from recycled cotton.
• We’re also continuing to scale up the Outlet, with additional refurbished memory, storage, and Wi-Fi options along with refurb Framework Laptop 13 (AMD Ryzen 7040 Series) systems now available in the US and Canada.
• We’ve been investing more in broadening Linux distro compatibility, most recently by providing the Linux Mint team with hardware.
• Finally, we recently opened shipping to a number of new countries in Europe over the last few weeks, and our products now ship to all of the EU! We’re excited to keep living up to our mission and scaling up both this ecosystem of long lived products and the number of people we can reach with it.

I'm not in market for new laptop for another year (half year). However are there any price expectations with tariffs (USA)? (Are there any statements made by framework company?)

[EDIT]: I've decided to get the laptop.

The title is Buy Now, if anyone is interested.

Details for early access for deepcomputes risc v motherboard are out! Preoders start at $200 for a Mobo, coolernaster case, and various sundries. I'm glad it's at an affordable price point.

Hello,

I just purchased an AMD framework 13 and while I wait (im)patiently for it to arrive, I was wondering what Linux distros people here are using.

I've only ever use Ubuntu on desktop, but I think I'm ready to move away from it now, which I guess leaves fedora and mint as officially supported distros.

What have you tried? What are your experiences?

@framework Good morning from Spain!.
My Macbook Pro 2011 is dying. After upgrading it to the maximum, now it's stuck in an outdated OS and I can't install or update new software. So I want to escape from the “Apple cult”. No way to pay 3000 € for something you can't upgrade.
I am thinking seriously to buy a Framework 16' with the 8gb gpu to work with Ubuntu and Win11 for simulators. But I have heard some bad comments about the quality of the keyboard, the spacers, and the noisy fan. Any advice?

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/21664063

Linux Mint and Framework Laptops Join Forces

The October 2024 edition of Linux Mint’s Monthly News brings exciting updates, including a significant announcement about collaboration with Framework Laptops, having potential to advance Mint’s compatibility with hardware designed with flexibility, repairability, and sustainability in mind.

For those unfamiliar, unlike most traditional laptops, which are often difficult or impossible to repair or upgrade, Framework laptops are built to be user-friendly, making it easy to replace or upgrade components. This modular approach extends the laptop’s lifespan and promotes sustainability by reducing e-waste.

Ok, to begin the price isn't really that much of an issue as I am willing to sacrifice it for the modularity. However, the reason I'm into such a modular laptop in the first place is that I am comically clumsy and have horrible luck with technology. For example, I dropped my ThinkPad T450 at the perfect spot for its screen to get decimated. I know repair is an option, but the outdated and nonupgradeable i5-5300U made a newer laptop sound reasonable. My past with laptops is not something I am willing to discuss as of right now, I will be getting a new laptop. However, I have heard concerns about the durability of the FW16 being concerningly bad, but I've also read that the materials (on paper) should be able to withstand most of the trials my clumsiness would put it through, one of the simpler requirements being able to withstand a drop from table height with no visible damage. This is concerning as I'm aiming for a laptop I wont have to replace for a long time, similarly to the P151HM1 I used until 2019, for over 10 years, so durability is a large factor and the modularity serves in case the laptop ends up breaking (which it will, but it is in my interest to minimise how often it does so). The trick feature, that being the swappable GPU really only takes second place for me as I have a well-specced gaming PC capable of fulfilling that role. My primary factors are modularity, durability and CPU power, which is why I'm making this post: I'm concerned about the durability. I really only care about build quality as a factor of durability, I don't need perfect spacer gaps or similar. I'm not willing to get a smaller laptop (see: Framework 13) because I'm interested in the higher computing capacity a 16 inch frame offers for future upgrades (e.g. dGPU, dual NVMEs, 96GB RAM, etc.). Battery life isn't too much of a concern either, as I'm aiming for a more "dock rider" oriented laptop so I'd need maybe 3 hours of light CPU use.

Almost scored a @framework mainboard for a great price on eBay and someone sniped it out from under me at the last second..

Most important part (to me):

Also in October, we’re expanding shipments to our next set of countries, Croatia, Portugal, Slovakia, and Slovenia. Before the end of the year, we’ll also be opening shipping to Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, and Romania, which gets Framework Laptops to all of the EU.

Hi there, I've been wanting a framework for awhile now, just haven't pulled the trigger yet. I was perusing the website today, comparing the price and performance of different configurations, when I realized that the 16 needs a 100w power adapter, 180w if you've got the graphics card.

This is a dumb question, because obviously it would charge fine with the lid closed and idling or turned off. Or I could just upgrade my power adapters. But I have a lot of 65w USB C PD chargers in my house and cars, and I was wondering if anyone has tried using them, and if so how effective is it?

Like, 180w is a lot of power. If I'm just working on spreadsheets or something, I'm imagining it would charge just fine? Under a heavier load I would probably start to slip backwards? Where's the line? Movie watching? Light gaming?

Just food for discussion I guess, I still haven't pulled the trigger haha.

Thanks!