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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This raises the bar for lawful gun ownership. It doesn't even prevent bad people from getting a gun. It doesn't stop violence from occurring. The law makes 0 attempts to prevent stealing a gun(which is a misdemeanor in CO unless it's worth over $1000), or to prevent crime. It just creates a financial barrier for those who want to legally own a gun. If you're a minority or LGBTQ, lawful gun ownership isn't just a hobby. For some of us it's literally survival. Especially with people disappearing from our streets. Maybe you don't look like an illegal immigrant. Maybe you look like someone whom the cops will always aid. If that's the case, good for you. But a lot of Americans don't have those kind of privileges. It wasn't that long ago that black men had shoot to members of the Klan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

New ccw $50 + whatever your county charges. Total is usually over $100. That's just to apply. You also have to pay for a class, which is usually around $200. Total for new ccw: about $300

Total for renewal: about $250

License for modern gun: unknown so far.

Regardless, this still gonna put the cost of lawful gun ownership out of reach for quite a few people. And for clarity's sake, those people tend to not be white.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I just don't see how making lawful gun ownership more expensive prevents bad people from doing bad things with guns.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

You're not allowed to take the class unless you get the permit first. Your county sheriff can deny your permit for any reason they deem fit. And you still have to pay a nonrefundable application fee for the permit. All this law does is make lawful gun ownership more expensive than illegal gun ownership. How will that prevent crime? It sounds more like a great way to keep modern firearms out of a particular population that is historically on the lower end of socioeconomic class Kinda like how you had to pay a tax to vote. A tax that was a little too expensive for people of a certain socioeconomic class.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

You can still get them if you have the finances to take a couple days off work, are white enough for your county sheriff, and can pay for a permit that allows you to take a safety class that you also pay for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (8 children)

And for those of us who's county sheriff won't? The state already said they don't know what the required training will be. This particular law has so many issues. The new permitting system (that you have go through before you're allowed to take the class) has to be ran and funded by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, who is already severely underfunded already. The law says they don't get any extra funding, and that the permits will pay for the system. But a Colorado Open Records Act revealed that they already predicted there will not be enough permits to take a class to fund the system. This law in particular is not about preventing gun violence and other crimes.

In CO, we already have to pay a sin tax on parts, ammo, and guns, on top of the sales tax and federal excise tax. ~~All that tax money~~ The sin tax money goes to a fund that can be used to fund mental health services for veterans, but most of it has to fund school security. Aka, cops.

I don't believe at all this law is about preventing violence, when all it does is add a big financial barrier to lawful firearm ownership. If you steal a gun in Colorado, unless it's a real fancy one, it's just a misdemeanor.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

How does requiring a permit to take a class to apply for a modern gun (who's system must be funded by an already underfunded wildlife agency) going to stop someone from stealing a gun? How does it prevent someone from walking into a movie theater and shooting up the place? How does banning the guns least likely to be used in crime, prevent crime?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

To get this training in CO, you have to apply for a permit first. And your county sheriff can deny you for any reason. So yeah, they can make sure only white people get modern guns. The training wouldn't be so bad if it was completely free, made available all over the state so rural people could do it, available everyday so poorer people don't have to take a day off of work, and if you pass you pass. None of this denying for any reason. Oh, and it needs to be offered in multiple languages. If there's a live fire portion, it can't be more difficult than what cops have to do.

But we all know that won't happen. This is just a way to make sure only the right looking people can get a gun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Sheriffs will have broad authority to deny applications from people seeking to buy otherwise banned firearms, including those they believe may be a risk to themselves or others. Those who are rejected, however, could file a lawsuit seeking to reverse the decision.

Once someone gets an eligibility card, they must complete up to a dozen hours of training over two days, depending on whether they have already completed a hunter education course, and pass a test. At that point they would be allowed to purchase a weapon otherwise banned under Senate Bill 3.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Trump is a fascist!

Resist!

Also, don't you dare fight back. Only Trump and his goons should own a gun.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28087130

As fascism rears it's ugly head, the Democratic Party says bow down and let it happen.

 

As fascism rears it's ugly head, the Democratic Party says bow down and let it happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Legally speaking, most American men are in the militia. The only women in the militia are in the National Guard. If the 2A was the only time in the Bill of Rights that, "the People," referred to a government sanctioned body, then most women cannot legally own a firearm.

 

Talk is cheap. Even more so from the Republican regime.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Just admit it Todd. You don't see them as human beings.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27995219

Now we're mixing the leadership of law enforcement and military.

In other news, armed minorities are harder to suppress.

 

Now we're mixing the leadership of law enforcement and military.

In other news, armed minorities are harder to suppress.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27899425

Just some North Korea shit, nothing to see here. Move along.

 

Just some North Korea shit, nothing to see here. Move along.

 

Do you have a separate admin account, or let your "main" account have admin rights? Do you require entering a password/PIN to install software? Just curious about where people fall on the security-convenience spectrum.

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